Dolphins reaction to Ted Ginn pick.

[RoethlisBURGHer]

Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets

here's a quick way to end this one....if oakland doesn't select russell , does he fall like quinn? i think not.

Nope,the Browns would have picked Russell...thier GM has had a hard-on for him since he was a teenager.

[tony hipchest]

Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets

here's a quick way to end this one....if oakland doesn't select russell , does he fall like quinn? i think not.

and most likely he doesnt fall past cleveland at 3. (roethlisBURGHer beat me to it)

[ChronoCross]

Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets

here's a quick way to end this one....if oakland doesn't select russell , does he fall like quinn? i think not.

Russell could of easily fell the same way if for say oakland picked quinn. What would change there mind at Miami to take russell instead of Ginn, they already have 1 Cullpepper, why would they pick up another. I am sure Oakland is ready to see them pretty rainbows for INTs. Its a pretty sad QB Class.

You cannot say for sure that it would not happen.

[Layin the wood]

Im a huge Ohio State fan but the Dolphins reached big time on this pick. Ginn has only been a WR for 3 years and he still has a lot to learn. He played DB/QB in high school and was the top DB coming to TOSU.

[MasterOfPuppets]

Originally Posted by ChronoCross

Russell could of easily fell the same way if for say oakland picked quinn. What would change there mind at Miami to take russell instead of Ginn, they already have 1 Cullpepper, why would they pick up another. I am sure Oakland is ready to see them pretty rainbows for INTs. Its a pretty sad QB Class.

You cannot say for sure that it would not happen.

they didn't use thier second pick on beck,because thier happy with thier qb situation. they didn't take quinn because he wasn't that high on thier board. which is what these guys were debating.did quinn fall because of lack of talent,or was it teams just didn't need a qb.i agree with tony.lack of talent. no way does all the teams that passed on quinn would have passed on russell.including the browns.

[tony hipchest]

Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets

they didn't use thier second pick on beck,because thier happy with thier qb situation. they didn't take quinn because he wasn't that high on thier board. which is what these guys were debating.did quinn fall because of lack of talent,or was it teams just didn't need a qb.i agree with tony.lack of talent. no way does all the teams that passed on quinn would have passed on russell.including the browns.

cameron is known for developing qb talent. word is they liked him as a better long term prospect, especially because of his accuracy. the dolphins knew he would be there for him in the 2nd.

a. schein and s. wilcots have had a great ongoing debate on this since the draft. wilcots is one of the few who had ginn jr. in the top 10 in his mock draft and brady quinn outside of the top 10. him and merrill hoge constantly fall back on their film study and say the eye in the sky dont lie. sure you can coach mechanics, but like speed, you cant coach accuracy.

way before the draft there was a feeling brady was trying to hide something to keep his stock up, by not participating in the sr. bowl or combine. for all his talk that he was the best and should be #1, a true competitor would want to go out and prove it at every opportunity.

another positive for ginn jr is the reports are the new coaching staff were really displeased with what they saw out of chambers in the OTA's

[MasterOfPuppets]

Originally Posted by tony hipchest

cameron is known for developing qb talent. word is they liked him as a better long term prospect, especially because of his accuracy. the dolphins knew he would be there for him in the 2nd.

a. schein and s. wilcots have had a great ongoing debate on this since the draft. wilcots is one of the few who had ginn jr. in the top 10 in his mock draft and brady quinn outside of the top 10. him and merrill hoge constantly fall back on their film study and say the eye in the sky dont lie. sure you can coach mechanics, but like speed, you cant coach accuracy.

way before the draft there was a feeling brady was trying to hide something to keep his stock up, by not participating in the sr. bowl or combine. for all his talk that he was the best and should be #1, a true competitor would want to go out and prove it at every opportunity.

another positive for ginn jr is the reports are the new coaching staff were really displeased with what they saw out of chambers in the OTA's

Current Miami Dolphins quarterbacks coach Terry Shea worked out Quinn, helping him to prepare the passer for the draft. He also worked out Beck prior to the draft. After factoring in Shea's hands-on evaluation of these two players, the Dolphins elected to pass on Quinn with the No. 9 overall pick. They selected Beck with the 40th overall pick instead.

obviously there was something about quinn he couldn't hide.

http://www.realfootball365.com/nfl/a...eck020507.html

[fugawzi]

Originally Posted by Layin the wood

Im a huge Ohio State fan but the Dolphins reached big time on this pick. Ginn has only been a WR for 3 years and he still has a lot to learn. He played DB/QB in high school and was the top DB coming to TOSU.

again, way too early to come to these kinds of conclusions. He could develop into one of the best returner/receiver combos in the league...or not. I don't know how true it is, but from what I hear, Fins GM Randy Mueller had heard Houston was trying to get Ginn at #10. Would they have been "reaching" too? MIA got their guy they wanted. No reach.

RothlisBURGHer - You're right, Brady was a sixth-rounder. 199 overall. Makes it even more interesting.

Masterofpuppets - Good points about Shea workin' out Quinn and Beck before the Draft.

[Crushzilla]

::sigh::

Can we never mention that Tom Brady was a 6th rounder ever again... That comes up 5,230 times ever year...

Mike Webster was a 5th round pick... No one ever brings THAT up...