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Old 05-24-2007, 11:41 PM   #11
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Pre-season come soon! PLEASE!
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Old 05-24-2007, 11:46 PM   #12
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Old 05-25-2007, 12:11 AM   #13
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Blitz, I had heard that more Clinton opponents were murdered than the total losses for Americans in Iraq.......Scary....... GO STEELERS!!!!!!!
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Old 05-25-2007, 07:42 AM   #14
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Blitz. Stop drinking the PROGRESSIVE.ORG kool aid man!

Try to research and think about things without having someone spoon feed you their agenda laced opinions! Do you think anything on that site would ever say anything good about Bush? He could rescue 1,000,000 puppies and they would still find some way to spin it around.

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I find it interesting that the moderators are mocking a legitimate post.


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All I did was ask him to link a credible source - I didn't ask for his first-born. Political opinions are more than welcomed here and though I don't agree with some of the more liberal views, I respect those opinions. However, when someone takes them overboard and incorporates personal attacks into those opinions, it's gone a little too far.
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Tom - as you have no idea of what has gone on behind the scenes, I don't feel your statement above merits a response.
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What, I'm not allowed an opinion now? I don't think I gave up my 1st Amendment rights just because I signed on as a mod here. Besides, you don't know the full story, so with all due respect, I don't think you're really qualified to comment on the situation. Thanks.
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With all due respect, and you folks know I'm not a troublemaker; if there are things going on behind the scenes that should stay there, then leave them there. To make comments based on that knowledge, and to then bring it out here, and then tell us that we can't comment because we don't know the whole story.... well, then you're talking about stuff out front that should be left in the back.

And of course you are allowed an opinion, fan76. But the opinion you are voicing in this thread isn't directed toward the subject, toward the issue raised in the post; it is an opinion about whether or not the post is proper, or on topic. If this is an administrative issue, then dropping it on the membership in this way is a bit high-handed, don't you think? And the first amendment is not at all relevant to this message board, as you well know.

And HTG, yes you did ask for a credible source; but you also wrote, in response to fan76's aside about the propriety of the post, "I totally agree Gary. It's getting beyond ridiculous." And then you and fan76 continue constructing straw men to knock down in mocking response; the only times "Buck Fush" and "Bush is a murderer" are mentioned in this thread is by both of you.

I take a lot of pride in telling people that this is one board where a person can find good solid discourse on both sides of an issue. Yes, it's the internet, and anyone can step in with inflammatory rhetoric, but by and large this is a good place where people on both sides can share well thought out opinions.

It would be unrealistic to expect a moderator to not have an opinion, and to refrain for voicing it; I enjoy reading opposing viewpoints, and our moderators have some of the best. But it is not unrealistic to expect moderators to refrain from attempting to influence people from posting based on whether or not they agree with the content off the post. And it is not unrealistic to expect them to give a post they disagree with the same impartiality for its validity that they would extend to one they agree with.

I've always felt that the staff here has done a great job in that manner, which is why this particular incident is so jarringly obvious. I hope it is a minor aberration borne from some behind the scenes frustration and everyone can work it out and get on with business as usual, which includes the great discussion of heavy issues that many of us have come to enjoy.


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With all due respect, and you folks know I'm not a troublemaker; if there are things going on behind the scenes that should stay there, then leave them there. To make comments based on that knowledge, and to then bring it out here, and then tell us that we can't comment because we don't know the whole story.... well, then you're talking about stuff out front that should be left in the back.

And of course you are allowed an opinion, fan76. But the opinion you are voicing in this thread isn't directed toward the subject, toward the issue raised in the post; it is an opinion about whether or not the post is proper, or on topic. If this is an administrative issue, then dropping it on the membership in this way is a bit high-handed, don't you think? And the first amendment is not at all relevant to this message board, as you well know.

And HTG, yes you did ask for a credible source; but you also wrote, in response to fan76's aside about the propriety of the post, "I totally agree Gary. It's getting beyond ridiculous." And then you and fan76 continue constructing straw men to knock down in mocking response; the only times "Buck Fush" and "Bush is a murderer" are mentioned in this thread is by both of you.

I take a lot of pride in telling people that this is one board where a person can find good solid discourse on both sides of an issue. Yes, it's the internet, and anyone can step in with inflammatory rhetoric, but by and large this is a good place where people on both sides can share well thought out opinions.

It would be unrealistic to expect a moderator to not have an opinion, and to refrain for voicing it; I enjoy reading opposing viewpoints, and our moderators have some of the best. But it is not unrealistic to expect moderators to refrain from attempting to influence people from posting based on whether or not they agree with the content off the post. And it is not unrealistic to expect them to give a post they disagree with the same impartiality for its validity that they would extend to one they agree with.

I've always felt that the staff here has done a great job in that manner, which is why this particular incident is so jarringly obvious. I hope it is a minor aberration borne from some behind the scenes frustration and everyone can work it out and get on with business as usual, which includes the great discussion of heavy issues that many of us have come to enjoy.


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The irony of this whole discussion as that board members are off limits but can post personal attacks against the President. I find that disrespectful regardless of political beliefs and whether you think his policies are any good.

As a moderator, myself, at another site (which is much stricter then this one), I have seen nothing wrong in the posts so far.

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