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Old 05-25-2007, 02:37 PM   #31
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Bush is the one pushing this bill in press conferences! How is that not the Republican Party pushing this terrible piece of crap legislation?
That's just one person doing that. Not the whole party.
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Old 05-25-2007, 02:38 PM   #32
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That's just one person doing that. Not the whole party.
He's the leader of the damn party!!
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Old 05-25-2007, 02:45 PM   #33
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That's just one person doing that. Not the whole party.
Senator Kyl (R) from Arizona is one of the major sponsors. Trent Lott (Senate minority whip) is pushing for passage as well:

The No. 2 Republican in the Senate made an all-out pitch for support of a comprehensive immigration bill on Wednesday as the Senate voted to reduce the size of a proposed guest worker program, infuriating employers.

The Republican, Senator Trent Lott of Mississippi, was not part of the bipartisan group of 12 senators who negotiated the “grand bargain” on immigration with the White House. But on Wednesday Mr. Lott defended the deal, which has come under heavy fire from the right and the left.


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/24/wa...es&oref=slogin

The Dems have made it clear that they are not going to allow this to be a Bush + congressional Democrats bill, with the GOP Congress running against the bill in 2008 as a Democrat idea while Bush is finally getting packed off to Crawford and the GOP no longer needs to defer to him.
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Senator Kyl (R) from Arizona is one of the major sponsors. Trent Lott (Senate minority whip) is pushing for passage as well:

The No. 2 Republican in the Senate made an all-out pitch for support of a comprehensive immigration bill on Wednesday as the Senate voted to reduce the size of a proposed guest worker program, infuriating employers.

The Republican, Senator Trent Lott of Mississippi, was not part of the bipartisan group of 12 senators who negotiated the ?grand bargain? on immigration with the White House. But on Wednesday Mr. Lott defended the deal, which has come under heavy fire from the right and the left.


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The Dems have made it clear that they are not going to allow this to be a Bush + congressional Democrats bill, with the GOP Congress running against the bill in 2008 as a Democrat idea while Bush is finally getting packed off to Crawford and the GOP no longer needs to defer to him.

This is simply a bad piece of legislation. The worst part for me is that one of the "Gang of 12" pushing this bill through is none other than our esteemed Senator Arlen Specter.
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He's the leader of the damn party!!
And all of us Republicans are tired of him.
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And all of us Republicans are tired of him.
Tired or not, he's yours. Plus you have Trent Lott, Arlen Specter, John McCain, John Kyl, etc lined up behind this bill like a chorus line. The Repubs want the Latino vote so bad they can taste it.
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Tired or not, he's yours. Plus you have Trent Lott, Arlen Specter, John McCain, John Kyl, etc lined up behind this bill like a chorus line. The Repubs want the Latino vote so bad they can taste it.
Sickening, if you ask me. While I don't doubt Bush's strategies in leading the US out of potential economic disaster after 9/11, he has made major gaffes on the homefront with things like Katrina response and this Immigration reform crap. They wouldn't need it if they just enforced the laws as written.
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And all of us Republicans are tired of him.
we can pretty much say the last 2 elections were essentially divided 50/50 (very close elections). if Bush still carries a 30-35% approval rating its fair to assume 60-70% of those who voted for him still approve.
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we can pretty much say the last 2 elections were essentially divided 50/50 (very close elections). if Bush still carries a 30-35% approval rating its fair to assume 60-70% of those who voted for him still approve.
Good call T.H.

According to the Gallup Poll, Bush has a tracking average approval rating of 35% for 2007, which breaks out with tracking average approval ratings of 75% among Republicans and 9% (I am surprised it is that high) among Democrats.

Over the course of his administration, Bush's job approval ratings among Republicans have only fallen 20 points from his high point in 2002 to the latest average, his lowest, in the first five months of this year. By comparison, Bush's approval rating has dropped 40 points among independents and 45 points among Democrats.

http://www.galluppoll.com/content/default.aspx?ci=27658

Maybe the Republicans who were polled thought they were being asked about the job performance of W's Dad.
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And all of us Republicans are tired of him.
I am one GOP'r who isn't and I'm not embarrassed to say it publicly. I don't agree with what he is trying to do here, nor have I agreed with everything he says or does, but I can't say that I disagree with everything he has done either. My family and everyone I hold dear has been safe since 911 and no matter what else he's done, I take that as his biggest accomplishment.
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