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Old 05-25-2007, 08:31 PM   #11
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however, even bens accident cant be used as an excuse for an 8-8 season after a sb, especially considering how well charlie batch filled in.
maybe we should have just gave ben the year off and let charlie play, maybe then we could have been in the playoffs.
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Old 05-25-2007, 08:43 PM   #12
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maybe we should have just gave ben the year off and let charlie play, maybe then we could have been in the playoffs.
well thats a good point on the situation cowher was faced with. im sure half of himself probably theought been needed to take a long break and recover. the other half mustve thought, he was the best at the position and needed to play asap. nobody wouldve expected batch to go 13-3 in relief of ben. then again, i dont think anyone expected old man bubby brister to go 4-0 in relief of elway en route to a sb season.

thats why i dont fault cowher with his decision. he was really damned if he do, damned if he dont. it was really a coinflip either way.
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well thats a good point on the situation cowher was faced with. im sure half of himself probably theought been needed to take a long break and recover. the other half mustve thought, he was the best at the position and needed to play asap. nobody wouldve expected batch to go 13-3 in relief of ben. then again, i dont think anyone expected old man bubby brister to go 4-0 in relief of elway en route to a sb season.

thats why i dont fault cowher with his decision. he was really damned if he do, damned if he dont. it was really a coinflip either way.

that is true. and cowher probably had ben screaming that he wanted to play and that he was ready to play. but i was yelling all year to put batch in..
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i cant believe im gonna say this, but if the rooneys were willing to let cowher play out his contract, it may have been a blessing in disguise that he walked this year, rather than next. we were able to land tomlin rather than the giants or some other team and i have all the confidence that it will be a good hire rather than luck if he is more than a 3 year coach (the nfl average).
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Old 05-26-2007, 08:45 AM   #15
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I am glad that we got Tomlin. I think he is just what those boys need. A no non sense coach that will make you play or you can sit on the bench. No favorites and makes them all hussle and perform to the best of their ability. I feel that we could win the superbowl this year if he dont suffer any major injuries.
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I too am glad about Tomlin, although at the start I was for Russ Grimm taking over, but the subpar line performance, as well as rumours that he really didn't know what direction he wanted to take as a HC in interviews has sort of put me off him.

As for Cowher, I'm thinking 2009 as well. It's sort of hard to see who'll last through next year to be fired the year after, but surely he'll object to Jerry Jones' meddling in Dallas if the jobs available. I don't think Carolina either because while there have been rumblings of discontent, Fox is still a really good coach who's brought in some great players, I think they'll give him a half decent chance if he struggles, plus I think they're a good shot for the playoffs this year, but that's a different matter. As for the Chargers, I do think they'll need a new HC in 2009, but after the fiasco with Schottenheimer, Cowher's mentor, how willing will he be to take over the job? What about Jacksonville? Del Rio is also on a slowly warming seat and if Leftwich doesn't work out it could be easy for them to be in need of a new HC in 2009. It seems possible, but the Redskins seem to be the best bet, they'll do whatever they can to cinvince Cowher to come back or Gibbs to hold off retiring again until Cowher's ready and then they'll show him the big bucks.
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how would we, as fans, feel about cowher going to cleveland next year? i don't know if i could cheer against him. that's like george bush joining al-quida!
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how would we, as fans, feel about cowher going to cleveland next year? i don't know if i could cheer against him. that's like george bush joining al-quida!
It will be like Roger Clemens and Johnny Damon going from the Red Sox to the Yankees - just as most Red Sox fans despise Clemens more than most other Yankees, for some of us Cowher will be public enemy #1 if he goes to the Browns.
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how would we, as fans, feel about cowher going to cleveland next year? i don't know if i could cheer against him. that's like george bush joining al-quida!
Somehow, I don't see his wife moving to Cleveland or Bill willing to do the comute back and forth again.
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I too am glad about Tomlin, although at the start I was for Russ Grimm taking over, but the subpar line performance, as well as rumours that he really didn't know what direction he wanted to take as a HC in interviews has sort of put me off him.

As for Cowher, I'm thinking 2009 as well. It's sort of hard to see who'll last through next year to be fired the year after, but surely he'll object to Jerry Jones' meddling in Dallas if the jobs available. I don't think Carolina either because while there have been rumblings of discontent, Fox is still a really good coach who's brought in some great players, I think they'll give him a half decent chance if he struggles, plus I think they're a good shot for the playoffs this year, but that's a different matter. As for the Chargers, I do think they'll need a new HC in 2009, but after the fiasco with Schottenheimer, Cowher's mentor, how willing will he be to take over the job? What about Jacksonville? Del Rio is also on a slowly warming seat and if Leftwich doesn't work out it could be easy for them to be in need of a new HC in 2009. It seems possible, but the Redskins seem to be the best bet, they'll do whatever they can to cinvince Cowher to come back or Gibbs to hold off retiring again until Cowher's ready and then they'll show him the big bucks.

I was never sold on Grimm, especially when he was the one making the halftime adjustments.. oh wait there werent any adjustments made..lol.. I was rooting for Wiz to get the job if it was going to be in house. Then I was liking Ron Riveria from the Bears, but they hired Mikey T and after hearing his interview, thought he was the right man for the job. I think he will keep the boys in check, especially those that are divas .
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