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Old 06-26-2007, 09:35 PM   #11
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Well personally I love my F150 and F350 and would not give them up for any honda are toyota, I can hall more, tow more, then any of them. And I have towed about all of them out there at one point off the road are to there home. You have to love a dodge when it breaks down.

Mercedes and Chrysler merged together. Cannot remember which bought who but that was a few years ago.

Ford and there counter part VW have been working on better gas mileage cars and trucks and they have been hitting the market.

Pontiac is probably one of the biggest piece of craps out there with more problems then any car maker out there.

BMW I would never own, seen so many of them burned out and broke down on the autobahn in germany to make me think different while I was there. And mercedes at almost 1000bucks a shot to get look at kinda stirs you away. Like my wifes brother(german) said BMW is only good until its first break down then sell it.
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Old 06-26-2007, 09:38 PM   #12
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Well personally I love my F150 and F350 and would not give them up for any honda are toyota, I can hall more, tow more, then any of them. And I have towed about all of them out there at one point off the road are to there home. You have to love a dodge when it breaks down.

Mercedes and Chrysler merged together. Cannot remember which bought who but that was a few years ago.

Ford and there counter part VW have been working on better gas mileage cars and trucks and they have been hitting the market.

Pontiac is probably one of the biggest piece of craps out there with more problems then any car maker out there.

BMW I would never own, seen so many of them burned out and broke down on the autobahn in germany to make me think different while I was there. And mercedes at almost 1000bucks a shot to get look at kinda stirs you away. Like my wifes brother(german) said BMW is only good until its first break down then sell it.
Maybe I am the exception to the rule - BMW owner since mid-90s and never had a problem with any of them.
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Old 06-26-2007, 09:44 PM   #13
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I for one am a UAW worker, we make the seats for the Chevy Cobalt. And I can guarantee you that every American Car is built just as good as the foreign car made as in Honda and Toyota. Maybe back in the 80's and partly the '90s it could have been true. The hourly difference is based on Big 3 pensions and Healthcare costs which Toyota and Honda do not have to pay for. I work for a supplier named Intier Automotive, Intier supplies the Big 3 and Toyota and Honda, and some Nissan vehicles with seats and various other interior parts. Anfd the Quality expectations is the same. And as far as gas economy, our vehicles stack right up there with them. It is all perception. And, as far as them being made in the USA, well, Assebled in the USA is more like it. Profits still go to the far east. And us UAW workers do not have anything against the people that work for Toyota, Honda or Nissan in the US. The gap will close as far as the wage, we can see that coming, we are not blind.
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Well personally I love my F150 and F350 and would not give them up for any honda are toyota, I can hall more, tow more, then any of them. And I have towed about all of them out there at one point off the road are to there home. You have to love a dodge when it breaks down.

Mercedes and Chrysler merged together. Cannot remember which bought who but that was a few years ago.

Ford and there counter part VW have been working on better gas mileage cars and trucks and they have been hitting the market.

Pontiac is probably one of the biggest piece of craps out there with more problems then any car maker out there.

BMW I would never own, seen so many of them burned out and broke down on the autobahn in germany to make me think different while I was there. And mercedes at almost 1000bucks a shot to get look at kinda stirs you away. Like my wifes brother(german) said BMW is only good until its first break down then sell it.

Daimler bought out Dodge, it is now Daimler/Chrysler. And Pontiacputs out pretty nicecars, thesster of the Cobalt is the G5, and the Grand Ams and Grand Prix were alson nice. And theG6 is pretty good also.
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Actually, all those multi-national mergers seem to be fading. Daimler just split Chrysler off, and Ford will probably be splintering all it's foreign brands, too. They had some impressive brands: Jaguar, Mazda, Land Rover, Volvo. I don't know what GM will do.
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GM, will not be getting any bigger anytime soon. They are big enough.
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GM, will not be getting any bigger anytime soon. They are big enough.
You work there. Do you think that it's possible that maybe the US makers wise up and take their industry back? Or is it past that?
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And I can guarantee you that every American Car is built just as good as the foreign car made as in Honda and Toyota. Maybe back in the 80's and partly the '90s
it could have been true. The hourly difference is based on Big 3 pensions and Healthcare costs which Toyota and Honda do not have to pay for. I work for a supplier named Intier Automotive, Intier supplies the Big 3 and Toyota and Honda, and some Nissan vehicles with seats and various other interior parts. Anfd the Quality expectations is the same. And as far as gas economy, our vehicles stack right up there with them. It is all perception. And, as far as them being made in the USA, well, Assebled in the USA is more like it. Profits still go to the far east. And us UAW workers do not have anything against the people that work for Toyota, Honda or Nissan in the US. The gap will close as far as the wage, we can see that coming, we are not blind.
Not according to Consumer Reports
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Consumer reports? Yeah there not biased. JD Power ranks Gm pretty good, and our Lordstown Plant was just ranked 4th in production in the US last week.
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