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Old 07-18-2007, 09:10 PM   #91
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Ha! All deals are gone. Nike is being diplomatic.

Dan makes a good point. But I wonder if the numbers might trend higher for Vick if he "just" killed a white woman like OJ did. Everybody loves dogs.

Did I just say that? Am I in trouble?
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Old 07-18-2007, 09:11 PM   #92
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...if found guilty.
Yeah exactly. Let's not jump the gun yet. He's only been indicted.
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Old 07-18-2007, 09:11 PM   #93
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i saw a special on tv about that a while back. i was pretty appaled and felt sorry for the kid. ive done the exact same "crime", although i dont believe 17 and 15 is punishable in this state. regarless i doubt many teenagers are checking local statutes in the heat of the moment, before receiving a consensual hummer .

no offense, but besides the humidity, the racial tensions and this type of BS that still exists is what will keep me from ever doing more than a brief visit to the dirty south, if i have any say about it.
Of course no offense taken - regular posters with whom I have non-Steelers discussions here have banked a ton of credibility and goodwill.

I only have lived for long periods in Pittsburgh, where blacks were pretty much marginalized when I lived there in the 60s and 70s, and Atlanta, where black citizens have had political clout since I moved here and have growing economic clout. For that reason, Atlanta has a lot of in your face activity from both camps. But living in a vibrant metro area that has pretty much boomed since I lived here (same metro size as Pittsburgh when I arrived, now 5 million) makes the trade-off worth it.

Unfortunately, racial tensions are not limited to the South; Dr. King ran aground when he tried to take on Chicago in the mid-60s and relations in the enlightened bastion of Boston are infamous.
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Oh, I think that deal is gone; even if acquitted Vick's image is about as torn-up as the dogs described in the indictment.
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Ha! All deals are gone. Nike is being diplomatic.
Absolutely. Even if he comes out of this scot-free, he's damaged goods. In the image-is-everything world of advertising, Vick's days as corporate shill are over. Who will be the starting QB for the Briscoe Hawks in those lame Nike ads now that Vick is outta there?
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Absolutely. Even if he comes out of this scot-free, he's damaged goods. In the image-is-everything world of advertising, Vick's days as corporate shill are over. Who will be the starting QB for the Briscoe Hawks in those lame Nike ads now that Vick is outta there?
Good question if they actually do knock him off.
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Well over on another forum there throwing around the race card saying he is going to get off like OJ. What they seem to forget, is OJ was in a local criminal court with a prosecution and local police who were making mistakes and let OJ get away with it. PonDexter tried to sweep this under the table to try and save his next election but the Feds get involved and its pretty well over for Vick when they go after you, because they do dig up all the evidence and are solid at the prosecution level and race nor how famous you are play a key in your conviction. If you did the crime the Feds will get you. I feel the right action and correct out come will happen and all the vic fan supporters will be in a up roar, but it is sad that he would do such a thing in the first place. Even Pac Man in the local courts has a better chance then Vick to get off and get back to Football in a year. But as I see it we will not see no more of Pac Man nor Vick when it comes down to the truth of the matter and what they have done and who they have around them.

Its a gift they have for this game and they and only they can mess it up for themselves and cost themselves millions. Like one said after you football career is over then go do what you want. But until then be good, do the right thing, be a good public figure for the kids to try and show them there is a place they could be at in the future if they work hard, and there dreams can come true. But players like we have had lately have taken there gift for granted and ruining themselves and the respect of there fans for them and also setting bad examples for the younger generations.

I hope after this is all said and done that people that are breaking the laws get just cause and what is coming to them. But in local courts the stars get off most of the time are pay there victims off to get out of trouble. With this federal case they will see that there not above the law and see how bad it can be when you get the feds on your back.
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WRONG!!!!! There Gone as soon as they can get the Papers filled. Kobie lost his before his trial ever happened, Yes he did get a few back after not convicted but not all. That gravy train has crashed!
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Jeff Schulz of the AJC (which better own coverage of this story) has a good column up.

He knew. Of course he knew. And that’s enough.

The Falcons are trying to figure out where to go with Michael Vick. Try this: Run in the other direction.
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If Blank doesn’t know what to do, he should ask himself this question: If this was a guy selling hammers at Home Depot and not your star quarterback, what would be your first move? I’m guessing it wouldn’t be a directive, “Go sell more hammers.”

This isn’t Mayberry or some backwoods county filing charges. This is: “UNITED STATES OF AMERICA v. MICHAEL VICK, a/k/a ‘Ookie,’ ” and three lesser-known bottom-feeders.

The federal government doesn’t hand these things out like parking tickets. Read the indictment. It’s detailed. It names manners of executions, amounts of wagers, even names of dogs.


Do nothing and this should be the Falcons new slogan: “Do the right thing — when it’s convenient.”


http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/sha...ge_tab_newstab

Vick's situation is beginning to remind me of the Don Imus death spiral (not from a law breaking standpoint but from a quick demise on the PR front). He may be on leave with pay by the end of the month.
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I only have lived for long periods in Pittsburgh, where blacks were pretty much marginalized when I lived there in the 60s and 70s, and Atlanta, where black citizens have had political clout since I moved here and have growing economic clout. For that reason, Atlanta has a lot of in your face activity from both camps. But living in a vibrant metro area that has pretty much boomed since I lived here (same metro size as Pittsburgh when I arrived, now 5 million) makes the trade-off worth it.

Unfortunately, racial tensions are not limited to the South.
and im a military brat who grew up on bases in CA, AZ, and NM, so not only am i not used to the humidity, such heated racial tensions are foreign to me. (i went to san antonio last week and thought the humidity was gonna kill me).

in college i had some of the freshman and sophmore football players in my dorm and i would score brew for them (i had a fake id and occasionally party with them). they were all black. now im a white guy who looked like a typical metalhead, and one of their team mates they brought over was from atlanta. of course looks can be decieving and i listened to all the same hip hop they did and was into sports and we were partying and having a good time, yet i could tell i was being scoped, and scrutinized in my own dorm room. i could definitely feel the tension from this one particular fellah. after about 20 minutes he decided to approach and speak to me and i seriously thought we were gonna come to blows.

with a mad dog face he simply said "where i come from we dont even f--k with people like you, but youse cool" as he reached out to shake my hand. and that was it.

thats as close as ive really come to experiencing the tension that still exists 1st hand. i have to say, what is normal and common place for most in this country i found to be very foreign and strange. but it is a memory i will never forget.

unfortunately i have some relatives who are lifetime pittsburghers who arent quite as open minded as i am. from listening to some of them, i woulda thought they were raised in the south

i did notice in the poll you posted that the verdict about vick was split 45%-45% whether he should be canned amongst whites. thats not nearly as skewed on the viewpoints of oj's guilt/innocence. do you see that as a sign of progress or a bunch of die hard sportfans who know vick is there best chance of having a successful season this year?
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