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Old 08-06-2007, 11:25 PM   #51
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Does anyone have the DirecTV HD DVR? We have Comcast and DirecTV at the moment. (Comcast for all programming and DirecTV on a different input just for NFL Sunday Ticket.) The reception on the Sunday ticket is not good on the HD tv but we have suffered through it for two years because we didn't want to switch everything over to DirecTV. Now, we are very frustrated with Comcast due to lack of HD channels, customer service issues and most recently, charging $5 a month for the NFL network that we previously received included in our regular package. And, they didn't air the game on Sunday in HD even though we are now paying for the NFL Network and have HD programming.

We have a friend that works at Tivo and says that the DirecTV HD DVR is horrible since their partnership with Tivo is over. We were Tivo loyalists until we got the HD tv and now reluctantly have the Comcast HD DVR.

So, we are trying to weigh the pros and cons of either staying with Comcast and paying $250 to watch Steeler games in poor quality or switching to DirecTV for everything so we can get Superfan. Any thoughts?

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direct tv blows everything away no joke! i wish i had it its amazing!
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Old 08-06-2007, 11:50 PM   #53
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Does anyone have the DirecTV HD DVR? We have Comcast and DirecTV at the moment. (Comcast for all programming and DirecTV on a different input just for NFL Sunday Ticket.) The reception on the Sunday ticket is not good on the HD tv but we have suffered through it for two years because we didn't want to switch everything over to DirecTV. Now, we are very frustrated with Comcast due to lack of HD channels, customer service issues and most recently, charging $5 a month for the NFL network that we previously received included in our regular package. And, they didn't air the game on Sunday in HD even though we are now paying for the NFL Network and have HD programming.

We have a friend that works at Tivo and says that the DirecTV HD DVR is horrible since their partnership with Tivo is over. We were Tivo loyalists until we got the HD tv and now reluctantly have the Comcast HD DVR.

So, we are trying to weigh the pros and cons of either staying with Comcast and paying $250 to watch Steeler games in poor quality or switching to DirecTV for everything so we can get Superfan. Any thoughts?

Thanks.
If you switch they'd probly throw in super fan for free too.
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Old 08-07-2007, 05:29 AM   #54
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since they run on razor thin margins to begin with.
Comcast runs on razor thin margins? That's not what their earnings statements show.
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Old 08-07-2007, 07:21 AM   #55
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I'm not sure I'm getting my point across. How is it a monopoly if you can get the same exact service through at least 2 different competitors, and in many places more (the phone companies are getting in on the action now, too)? Dish companies have an advantage in that they toss up a couple satellites and they are in business for years. If something goes wrong with your cable, it's fixed for free, but if your dish breaks, you're looking at $60 an hour to get it fixed. They can also much more easily absorb the extortion from networks like ESPN who charge almost $4.00 a month per subscriber, because their margins aren't as thin, and they also don't have nearly as many subs as the Dish companies. People just assume that the cable companies raise rates out of greed, when in fact they are just passing on rate increases.

The problem with competition between cable companies is that one will quickly price the other out of the market, since they run on razor thin margins to begin with. Whichever company can absorb the short term losses better will end up pricing the other out of the market, and it's back to the drawing board.

Look, I don't have much sympathy for these companies either, but it's an apples and oranges scenario.
Well, it is hard to compare the two (satellite vs. cable) as many people are in my position where I was unable to even consider a dish in my last two residences because of location. So, cable becomes your only option. And, in most cases you are stuck with one.

When I say cable monopoly, I speak in terms of cable companies only. Hence the reason I am only allowed to have charter as a cable company.

The scenario you describe with competition, price wars, etc. is exactly what happens in every industry with competition...and, more often then not, you will see improved support , better services and better pricing. All of these concerns were put forth by Ma Bell when she was broken up in 96. I don't remember that being much of an issue as Verizon and the baby Bells are doing just fine. But, now they have competition.

I clearly understand where you are coming from. My degree is in Telecom and I worked in the industry as well.
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Does anyone have the DirecTV HD DVR? We have Comcast and DirecTV at the moment. (Comcast for all programming and DirecTV on a different input just for NFL Sunday Ticket.) The reception on the Sunday ticket is not good on the HD tv but we have suffered through it for two years because we didn't want to switch everything over to DirecTV. Now, we are very frustrated with Comcast due to lack of HD channels, customer service issues and most recently, charging $5 a month for the NFL network that we previously received included in our regular package. And, they didn't air the game on Sunday in HD even though we are now paying for the NFL Network and have HD programming.

We have a friend that works at Tivo and says that the DirecTV HD DVR is horrible since their partnership with Tivo is over. We were Tivo loyalists until we got the HD tv and now reluctantly have the Comcast HD DVR.

So, we are trying to weigh the pros and cons of either staying with Comcast and paying $250 to watch Steeler games in poor quality or switching to DirecTV for everything so we can get Superfan. Any thoughts?

Thanks.
Sounds like a Tivo rep just being a Tivo rep. their newer DVR service is just fine...make sure you have the newer box.

Only thing I miss from cable is the On Demand services.
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Old 08-07-2007, 07:34 AM   #57
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i had dish network from december 2005 to july 2006. they installed it on my roof, up high, 2 story colonial, as that was the only place they could get the signal in. superbowl xl sunday, a snowstorm came overnight, i was standing on an extension ladder cleaning snow off of it. thank god it didn't go out during the game. then the box blew up, sent me a new one 3 weeks later. then in the spring the leaves came on the trees behind our house and no signal. they wanted to charge me to come out and investigate. i asked why i couldn't have it like my neighbor, on a post in the yard, the neighbor has never had problems and said i could put mine next to his if i wanted. they wouldn't do it, i cancelled it then they tried charging me for the equipment and cancelling my contract which i never had. terrible company from my experience. also chaps my backside that they don't come and get their friggin satelite off my roof. now the neighbor has direct tv, their signal is in a different location, doesn't have to go through the trees and they have no problems. i also live close enough to the burgh to use a different address and pick up the pittsburgh affiliates if i got direct tv. however, the wife never wants a satelite again. i am stuck with time warner which took over adelphia in our area. it sucks, no nfl network, only hd channels are espn, tnt, and a oldies movie channel.
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Old 08-07-2007, 07:47 AM   #58
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I was home visiting my parents over the weekend in good ol Cambria County and they have Dish Network. They love it. They have had it for about 8 or 9 months now and they love it. I am actually a fan of it too. So far they havnt had any trouble with it. I have noticed one thing though. So many people in the area around my parents are going to Dish Network, some Direct TV. But most people are getting the dish over Comcast. They people are just tired of paying an arm and a leg for cable. And its nice because my parents get NFL Network, ESPN U, CSTV, I love it. If we already didnt get the triple play from Comcast for our new place I would look into that. Digital Cable/phone/ internet for $99 a month.
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Old 08-07-2007, 08:22 AM   #59
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I've had Dish Network before and never had a problem - I absolutely loved it. If I could, I'd drop Comcast tomorrow for the dish, but unfortunately I live in an apartment building and the landlord doesn't allow satellite dishes. So I'm stuck with Comcast robbing me blind every month until FiOS TV is available.
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i hear yah. we enjoyed the dish when it worked. the bad part for me is the trees/woods behind our house don't belong to us or i would top them off, cut 'em down. i am going to try and convince the wife to get direct tv, at least try it. if you think comcast is bad, be happy you don't have time-warner. friggin crooks. i was hoping we would get comcast, how bad is that?
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