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Old 08-06-2007, 08:53 PM   #21
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Wow. How much of this is analytical acumen and how much is just hate for a man? Checks and balances again. Doesn't the much more unpopular congress still have veto override power? Has Bush even vetoed anything from Congress? These guys are all in cahoots.

As for "deriving the most benefit", think about what you just said in the context of this particular subject. Aren't the illegal aliens and manipulative foreigners the ones benefiting most from these scenarios? I don't think these guys are even allowed to register to vote, and they aren't likely to vote Republican if they were. This isn't some vast right wing conspiracy, it's a horribly broken system, and, as far as I can see, when pretty intelligent people like yourself get caught up in the semantics and unimportant and diversionary minutiae, it's just another victory for "them".
Absofreakinglutely.

And on top of all of that...what can these people say to the hard working immigrants who pay their dues and come into this country legally? I wish I could just break a law because I disagreed with it.
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Old 08-06-2007, 10:37 PM   #22
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Holy Mother of God - those figures are just mind-blowing!!!

Y'know what is really sad? In the not too distant future, we Americans are going to be minorities in our OWN COUNTRY!!!
the future is already here . I live in the great state of Mexifornia formerly known as California it's already happened. I am the minority, white, woman and a Steeler Fan!

And English well that is a thing of the past.
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how do we know this site is legit?
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I'm going to be a voice of dissent on this one. I absolutely believe there needs to be reforms in the system, but I don't agree with most of you on this. I'd like to see some numbers on how much illegal aliens put back into the economy with their labor etc. I've known a few (who are currently legal (with visas and trying to get citizenship). They work very hard at jobs that most "Americans" wouldn't even consider---especially in argiculture and certain service industries.

The reason the government turns a blind eye---I believe---is because illegals fill a certain niche in our economy.

I know this isn't the subject of the post, but the talk about "building a wall" really angers me. People use the safety/trerrorism excuse, but that is just BS. The 911 terrorists entered through Canada---don't hear anything about a wall up there.
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Its not like we have a problem with Canadians sneaking into the country either and living off our tax dollars.
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Its not like we have a problem with Canadians sneaking into the country either and living off our tax dollars.
Exactly!

It's a simple matter of them being here ILLEGALLY!! And, no one ever addresses the heart of the issue.

What the hell is wrong with Mexico? If they had any national pride, why not stay and try to fix their country? What is wrong with that country????
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by the time i have kids we will need to move to canada
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by the time i have kids we will need to move to canada
And learn how to speak french.
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I'm going to be a voice of dissent on this one. I absolutely believe there needs to be reforms in the system, but I don't agree with most of you on this. I'd like to see some numbers on how much illegal aliens put back into the economy with their labor etc. I've known a few (who are currently legal (with visas and trying to get citizenship). They work very hard at jobs that most "Americans" wouldn't even consider---especially in argiculture and certain service industries.

The reason the government turns a blind eye---I believe---is because illegals fill a certain niche in our economy.
There is no doubt that these illegals work and they may indeed "fill a niche", but they are still not shouldering their weight. If they are working off the books, they aren't paying taxes, and their bosses aren't paying taxes on them either. I'd say the odds are that if a guy will employ illegals, he's probably involved in other questionable business practices. The bottom line remains that these people need to contribute their share of taxes if they want to reap the benefits. I don't even care if the contributions they make above the table actually account for the burden they present, it's the principle of the thing.
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I'm going to be a voice of dissent on this one. I absolutely believe there needs to be reforms in the system, but I don't agree with most of you on this. I'd like to see some numbers on how much illegal aliens put back into the economy with their labor etc. I've known a few (who are currently legal (with visas and trying to get citizenship). They work very hard at jobs that most "Americans" wouldn't even consider---especially in argiculture and certain service industries.
The reason the government turns a blind eye---I believe---is because illegals fill a certain niche in our economy.

I know this isn't the subject of the post, but the talk about "building a wall" really angers me. People use the safety/trerrorism excuse, but that is just BS. The 911 terrorists entered through Canada---don't hear anything about a wall up there.
you know what angers me? riding by a construction site and seeing 50 mexicans working when i'm laid off ,because the company i work for was outbid on the job ,because thier paying LEGAL wages, to LEGAL citizens of this country!!
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