Romo asking for $30M guaranteed

[fansince'76]

Originally Posted by alittlejazzbird

I have to think the Cowboys are going to balk at that $30 million figure.

If it were any owner besides Snyder or Jones, I would be inclined to fully agree. With Jones, ya never know, though.

[alittlejazzbird]

Originally Posted by fansince'76

If it were any owner besides Snyder or Jones, I would be inclined to fully agree. With Jones, ya never know, though.

You gotta point there, 76....imagine how happy Ben will be if Jones is loony enough to actually pay it!

[Big D]

Originally Posted by alittlejazzbird

You gotta point there, 76....imagine how happy Ben will be if Jones is loony enough to actually pay it!

Well Ben would be wishing his ass on the first plane out of pittsburgh. I dont see the steelers giving ben that type of money regardless what the market shows

[silver & black]

Originally Posted by Big D

the best thing roger goodell could do at this point is put a contract structure for nfl players similar to the way the nba has theirs. How long will it take before a player gets a rod type of money?

You can bet it will be addressed at the next CBA meeting. It is ridiculously out of hand...especially rookie salaries. Russell better be Superbowl good right out of the gate, or he is in for a rude awakening from Raider Nation after what he put us through this year.

[silver & black]

Originally Posted by Big D

Like peyton manning. What do you think polian would do if manning went into his office today and said I want 100 million in guarantees. You are backed into a corner and have no choice. In my opinion the biggest thing wrong with the nfl today is there is no rookie salary cap.

I might be wrong about this, but I believe there is a rookie cap. They get around it with option bonuses, signing bonuses and roster bonuses.

[Big D]

Originally Posted by silver & black

You can bet it will be addressed at the next CBA meeting. It is ridiculously out of hand...especially rookie salaries. Russell better be Superbowl good right out of the gate, or he is in for a rude awakening from Raider Nation after what he put us through this year.

espically after acting like a greedy spoiled brat. Drafting a quarterback number one is always risky, but when it is the raiders and with their luck with drafting quarterbacks in the first round it's like playing russian roulette. I'm sure there are raider fans that arent over todd marijuaivich

[Big D]

Originally Posted by silver & black

I might be wrong about this, but I believe there is a rookie cap. They get around it with option bonuses, signing bonuses and roster bonuses.

whats funny is the nba has a great rookie cap that prevents any hold outs. While the nfl has a great policy that wont let underclassman enter the draft until year 3 after graduation. Could you imagine if both leagues would combine the smarts in this. Odds are your boy Jamarcus Russell would be starting right now

[Atlanta Dan]

Originally Posted by silver & black

I might be wrong about this, but I believe there is a rookie cap. They get around it with option bonuses, signing bonuses and roster bonuses.

I think the first round salary signings are slotted, meaning the #15 pick almost always will get less than the #10 pick (which is what messed up Brady Quinn after everyone missed his view that he was really a #1 pick who happened to slide to #22 but still should get top 5 pick money.) That is why you always seem to have the delay in first round signings as someone needs to go first and set the market price that year.

After that, initial contracts for first round picks go 4 (Troy) to 5 (Ben) years to amortize the signing bonus.

The NFL needs to go to a separate cap for rookie signigs but that would hurt the agents and top players who (along with Goodell) are the colllective masters' voice for Gene Upshaw and the sham union called the NFLPA, which does nothing for rank & file players or retirees.

I believe no top shelf QB has ever left his team in the prime of his career since the cap came in, but someone soon is going to demand a bust the bank contract that some mid- to small market owner will refuse to pay. IMO Ben & the Rooneys are on the short list of QB-owner tandems for which that may occur.

[silver & black]

Originally Posted by Big D

espically after acting like a greedy spoiled brat. Drafting a quarterback number one is always risky, but when it is the raiders and with their luck with drafting quarterbacks in the first round it's like playing russian roulette. I'm sure there are raider fans that arent over todd marijuaivich

I'm one of those Raider fans... Marinovich was a disaster. He is the reason that Davis avoids drafting QB's like the plague. For the Raiders to step up and draft another QB at #1 shows that Davis knows what the greatest need on this team is.

His nickname through this this whole debacle was JaGreedy.

[Big D]

Originally Posted by silver & black

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I'm one of those Raider fans... Marinovich was a disaster. He is the reason that Davis avoids drafting QB's like the plague. For the Raiders to step up and draft another QB at #1 shows that Davis knows what the greatest need on this team is.

His nickname through this this whole debacle was JaGreedy.

I'll give you raider fans credit. I wouldnt be as forgiving if we had a player hold out through week one.