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Old 10-12-2007, 01:11 PM   #21
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Concur. But we shouldn't discount the possibilities.

I will say without blinking that this is the FASTEST Steeler defense ever. Harrison, Farrior and especially Haggans have revealed speed that was less apparent last season
Maybe the fastest, but not nearly the best.
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:55 PM   #22
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The best? I don't think so. The 2007 Steelers D has great potential to be dominant though. Could it be due to a new, unshackled D.Lebeau having FULL control over the Defense?
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:58 PM   #23
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The best? I don't think so. The 2007 Steelers D has great potential to be dominant though. Could it be due to a new, unshackled D.Lebeau having FULL control over the Defense?
Or could it be because they played a Browns team that benched its starting QB in the 2nd quarter, a Bills team that always will find a way to lose, a 49ers team with no offense, and a Seahawks team showcasing an aging RB with a broken wrist?

I am pleased they are playing well but will be even more pleased if they play well against Cincy and some other comeptent offenses.
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Old 10-12-2007, 03:01 PM   #24
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Maybe the fastest, but not nearly the best.
Yet...

I don't put it past them. Don't forget, we don't have a lot of age issues on this defense. They way our LB's and secondary hits... heck, the way our NT hits... the fact that we should keep most if not all of them for quite a few years, the fact that they are faster then the 70's D... we could develop into a rival defense to the 70's D.

And that, my friends, will bring us 2 or 3 more SB's.
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They way our LB's and secondary hits... heck, the way our NT hits... we could develop into a rival defense to the 70's D.
Possibly, but I don't see it - when the NFL starts changing rules to counteract the dominance of our D (like it did in the '70s), then I'll say we've made it.
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Yet...

I don't put it past them. Don't forget, we don't have a lot of age issues on this defense. They way our LB's and secondary hits... heck, the way our NT hits... the fact that we should keep most if not all of them for quite a few years, the fact that they are faster then the 70's D... we could develop into a rival defense to the 70's D.

And that, my friends, will bring us 2 or 3 more SB's.
Preacher...did you ever see the 70's defense play? If you did, how can you honestly compare this unit to them? If you didn't, I can understand why you don't understand how silly this comparison is. The 70's defense had a player that single handedly caused the NFL to change the rules on defense (Mel Blount).

Let's see this unit stop the 2007 Patriots before we compare them to a team that not only sustained greatness for a 6 year period of time, but also had 4 Hall of Famers on it and argueably 6 HOF's if you include Greenewood and Andy Russell.
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Preacher...did you ever see the 70's defense play? If you did, how can you honestly compare this unit to them? If you didn't, I can understand why you don't understand how silly this comparison is. The 70's defense had a player that single handedly caused the NFL to change the rules on defense (Mel Blount).

Let's see this unit stop the 2007 Patriots before we compare them to a team that not only sustained greatness for a 6 year period of time, but also had 4 Hall of Famers on it and argueably 6 HOF's if you include Greenewood and Andy Russell.
Um....

Let me refer you back.....

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I don't put it past them. Don't forget, we don't ...
that is not a comparison. IT is a statement that we do not measure up now, but it holds that in the future, it may or may not.
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Possibly, but I don't see it - when the NFL starts changing rules to counteract the dominance of our D (like it did in the '70s), then I'll say we've made it.
I agree.

But then I look at the fact that our two best LB's in the future still MAY be sitting on the bench as rookies.

If they both come as advertised.... and yes, that is big if... We definitely may rival the early teams, maybe not individually, but as a unit.

For those of you who are about to jump all over this, let me again point to the operative word here...

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Hell yes - the only thing that will keep Lloyd out of the HoF is the fact that his career was cut short due to injuries, not because his play wasn't up to snuff.

I agree 100%. I was hurt when Lloyd's injuries sold him short.

Its funny though, I was listening to a commentator for a game in which Joey Porter was playing (Don't remember which one), and a commentator said that Steeler fans often drew comparisons between Joey and Lloyd. And the other commentator responded by saying, "I played against Greg Lloyd, he's no Greg Lloyd." I found that amusing to say the least.
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I think in the next couple years this def has the potential to be one of the best, just look at our core of players on Def, Hampton, Polamalu, Tayler, Gay (if he continues to improve like he is now), Harrison, Farrior and Haggans all have the potential to be or already top Def guys, add in the 2 new LB's and we have a talented YOUNG def that is hungry. Plus one of the greates Def minds in the game currently inventing a newer more potent defensive scheme . . . keeps me excited for the next few years just for the possibilities.
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