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Old 10-22-2007, 03:10 PM   #31
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Default Re: Is Polamalu overrated?

By the way when I say over rated I mean everytime they play all you hear is Troy is the best DB in the league or the best defensive players in the league. I think he is good but not that good. Some of you guys should watch some video of Donnie Shell sometime.
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Old 10-22-2007, 03:45 PM   #32
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I'm not a fair weather fan, I'm a lifelong fan from the 70's. Didn't say to trade him. Its a legit question. My opinion is he is used wrong and out of position alot. This isn't just my opinion from last nights game. I just don't see him making good sound tackles or big plays on a regular basis. I think he'd be a better player and our D would be better if they played him more convetionally. Personally I'd take Reed over Troy as the better safety because he is in position more often then not. Thanks for backing me Blastfurnace.
No problem. I thought you asked a legitmate question. Personally, I would take Ed Reed over Troy as well. I like Troy a lot, but Ed Reed is...in my opinion...the best in the game.
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Old 10-22-2007, 03:49 PM   #33
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By the way when I say over rated I mean everytime they play all you hear is Troy is the best DB in the league or the best defensive players in the league. I think he is good but not that good. Some of you guys should watch some video of Donnie Shell sometime.
I'm a fan from the 70's as well. Donnie Shell was a heck of a safety. I still remember his hit on Earl Campbell that broke Earl's ribs. Shell was a good cover guy as well. It's hard to believe we got him as an undrafted FA.

IMO, the best safeties the Steelers have ever had were Donnie Shell and Carnell Lake. Troy is close, but I like the other two better.

Honorable mention goes to Mike Wagner and Glen Edwards.
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Old 10-22-2007, 05:08 PM   #34
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HAHA our defense has one bad game and Troy is overrated is that a serious question! haha
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Old 10-22-2007, 06:25 PM   #35
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I'm a fan from the 70's as well. Donnie Shell was a heck of a safety. I still remember his hit on Earl Campbell that broke Earl's ribs. Shell was a good cover guy as well. It's hard to believe we got him as an undrafted FA.

IMO, the best safeties the Steelers have ever had were Donnie Shell and Carnell Lake. Troy is close, but I like the other two better.

Honorable mention goes to Mike Wagner and Glen Edwards.
I can't argue with those choices at all, Those guys were all good or great safties. Shell could light you up and was good for 6 ints a year. Wagner is an old favorite too. I was checking out some other boards today and it seems there are alot of people noticing alot of what my post talks about and not just last nights game. Sorry to offend alot of Troy fans here. I just think if he were used normally he'd be a better player and still use him as an occasional blitzer.
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I can't argue with those choices at all, Those guys were all good or great safties. Shell could light you up and was good for 6 ints a year. Wagner is an old favorite too. I was checking out some other boards today and it seems there are alot of people noticing alot of what my post talks about and not just last nights game. Sorry to offend alot of Troy fans here. I just think if he were used normally he'd be a better player and still use him as an occasional blitzer.
Yep. I am a member of 2 other boards and there are threads dedicated to Troy on those boards as well. I have a feeling that he is literally running himself out of the play in some instances.
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Troy is going through as a player what LeBeau is going through as a coach (and FWIW it looks like Troy & LeBeau were having a spirited exchange on the sidelines at one point last night).

Tomlin wants to go to incorporate more Cover 2, which changes what LeBeau can call and definitely changes the role of the safety in the defense. Troy took a year to adapt his rookie year and he is going through the first big evolution in his role since then.

Troy will be fine - there are bigger concerns on D for now (including CBs, pass rush from the OLBs, and how long Aaron Smith may be out)
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i think you had good intentions rob, but after a tough loss, you can expect to get some hate mail for a question like that here.

it could be a legitimate question, (i think the answer is no), but the timing is really bad.

i have to admit that the "second string defense" (against seattle) looked a lot more efficient then our "class of the nfl" defense did yesterday. there could be a lot of reasons for that.

maybe you were thinking this about troy for the last 4 years, but when you ask that question now, it looks like you are basing it on the last 2 games.

cheers! discussion is always good!
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Troy is going through as a player what LeBeau is going through as a coach (and FWIW it looks like Troy & LeBeau were having a spirited exchange on the sidelines at one point last night).

Tomlin wants to go to incorporate more Cover 2, which changes what LeBeau can call and definitely changes the role of the safety in the defense. Troy took a year to adapt his rookie year and he is going through the first big evolution in his role since then.

Troy will be fine - there are bigger concerns on D for now (including CBs, pass rush from the OLBs, and how long Aaron Smith may be out)
I agree. Troy is not the problem.
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The quarterback looks at troy just before the ball is snapped........Maybe because hes overated..........OR maybe because Troy causes the offense to account for him because if you watch the game.......Troy is in on almost every play.......Doesnt matter what side of the field hes on..............But you say that is being overated.......Let me consider this for a minute.........Okay.........If we won last night.........YOU WOULD NOT BE ASKING THIS QUESTION.....
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