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Old 10-27-2007, 02:49 PM   #11
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Yeah, I don't see what the big deal is in what Arians said either. To me, this is a non-story.
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Old 10-27-2007, 02:56 PM   #12
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The Steelers better sure up their passing D or it will be a long second half of a season. The Offense scored 28 points but they came at the end of the game. The offense did not play well at all in the first half. When you score also counts. Its not like we were up 28 to nothing and the D let them score 28 unanswered points.

I do agree that the D lost the game by giving up 21 points. But remember the offense also contributed to the score with a Ben fumble taken back for a TD. Turnovers also count in momentum. Even though the D must go out there and stop them it can be a let down non the less.

Both offrense and defense contributed in the loss. But the bottom line is when you turn the ball over in the NFL you are going to lose and thats it.
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Old 10-27-2007, 02:58 PM   #13
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It didnt sound like he threw Ben under the bus to me

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Old 10-27-2007, 03:16 PM   #14
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Yeah, I don't see what the big deal is in what Arians said either. To me, this is a non-story.
Exactly.

It was actually more of him saying that the reason the TEAM didn't run was the Bronco's came in to stop the run, Ben called it out and changed it.

Funny thing is, that is what he was SUPPOSED to do.
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Yeah, if they put 8 in the box, of course he had to audible to wide reciever screens and quick slants. You could see him audibling out of the run during the game. There's no story here. We just have to force teams out of those 8 man front. Arizona was the 1st team to try it (and was successful). Seattle did it but our D played well enough for us to win that game. I expect the Bengals to try the same thing this weekend. We have to work on exploiting 8 man fronts.
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Old 10-27-2007, 04:53 PM   #16
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It didnt sound like he threw Ben under the bus to me

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Thanks for the feedback - I will try to do better in the future

The fact remains after 5 days of criticism, Arians decided it was time to lay the preponderance of the pass play calling on his QB - I certainly did not hear it from Ben or Tomlin

I stand by my position it was blame shifting - contrast Arians comments on the play calling with how Troy handled criticism of his play last Sunday

Polamalu took responsibility for being "misaligned on a big play," and said the others were "probably my fault as well, the big ones, yeah.


http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pitt.../s_534606.html

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i dont care who's fault it was.. that was last week. now we need to focus on the bengals and shut down tj and cj.... and as i stated before (many times) it doesnt matter what ben says or dont say something will find fault with it... so move on and get over it... its in the past.
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Yeah, I don't see what the big deal is in what Arians said either. To me, this is a non-story.
I know everyone loves the guys who rush to take the blame, but maybe what Arians said is just the truth. Plain & simple.
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i dont care who's fault it was.. that was last week. now we need to focus on the bengals and shut down tj and cj.... and as i stated before (many times) it doesnt matter what ben says or dont say something will find fault with it... so move on and get over it... its in the past.
I moved on ... by his comments yesterday it is Arians who apparently has not
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Thanks for the feedback - I will try to do better in the future

The fact remains after 5 days of criticism, Arians decided it was time to lay the preponderance of the pass play calling on his QB - I certainly did not hear it from Ben or Tomlin

I stand by my position it was blame shifting - contrast Arians comments on the play calling with how Troy handled criticism of his play last Sunday

Polamalu took responsibility for being "misaligned on a big play," and said the others were "probably my fault as well, the big ones, yeah.


http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pitt.../s_534606.html

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I still just don't see it, Dan, sorry. When a QB is facing 8- and 9-man fronts, it's expected he try to change the play. If the Steelers had continue to run against those fronts without success, the fans would have questioned why they didn't pass enough, as they did after the loss to the Cardinals.

This is a classic case of damned if you do and damned if you don't. Fans want someone to blame, so players and coaches go out of their way more often than not to accept it, even when they are only part of the reason for the loss. And if they don't, well, this is what happens.

I always respect you and your opinion, Dan, but I see nothing wrong with what Arians said.
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