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Old 01-11-2008, 05:41 PM   #61
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Default Re: Arians and LeBeau stay!!

Here is what scares the Hell out of me: Tomlin put all kinds of emphasis on ST's in camp. He went out of his way to devote extra time to it, and we still had the worst ST's in the NFL. I have a friend who has a theory that we cut all the guys who spent all that extra time on ST's, but I'm not convinced.

Regardless, if the dude is back next year, the dude is back next year. I guess we can all take solace in the fact that the ST's probably can't get any worse.
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Old 01-11-2008, 11:58 PM   #62
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Does anyone have a problem with handing Dick a 10 year extention???
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Old 01-12-2008, 12:50 PM   #63
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i think on kick off we should put Daniel Sepulveda as the kicker.. at least we know if someone does break a return he has a better chance of tackling the funner than reed
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Does anyone have a problem with handing Dick a 10 year extention???
A young man has more vigor but Dick has lots of experience. Let Dick stay, he's done a great job and is young for his age! He'll know when it's time to go.

I think the Rooneys did the right thing in going with young head coaches. Paterno is still a head coach at 81! (I think he should step down & turn it over to a younger man.)
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Take away those two Mathis picks and where are the Steelers Preacher?

Blame the special teams all you want. Blame the defense all you want. At the end of the day, three huge picks killed the Steelers. You know and I know it. All three of those picks killed socring drives and two of those picks were all on GS.

Don't sit there are praise him for bringing the team back when he was a huge part of the reason they were in the hole they were in.
Take away the ST's failure and we are up by 7, maybe 14. The gameplans change, everything changes.

Is Ben at fault for actually throwing the interceptions.... 2 out of 3 of them are completely his fault. However, it is THAT EXACT SAME MENTALITY THAT GOT HIM THROWING INTERCEPTIONS... THAT ALSO PUT US IN THE LEAD. By the way, the third INT (screen pass) was simply a GREAT play by the D. The guy was on the ground when Ben was throwing the pass... and he got up and picked it off. Great play, period.

In the end, Ben made up for his mistakes. The ST's did not. Where was the big return to make up for letting a big return? Defense did not. Where was the shutdown on that last drive to make up for the lapses before that?

Does Ben make mistakes, absolutely, but he makes up for them, neither the D nor special teams made up for thiers... ergo, the blame belongs on ST's and D.
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Take away the ST's failure and we are up by 7, maybe 14. The gameplans change, everything changes.

Is Ben at fault for actually throwing the interceptions.... 2 out of 3 of them are completely his fault. However, it is THAT EXACT SAME MENTALITY THAT GOT HIM THROWING INTERCEPTIONS... THAT ALSO PUT US IN THE LEAD. By the way, the third INT (screen pass) was simply a GREAT play by the D. The guy was on the ground when Ben was throwing the pass... and he got up and picked it off. Great play, period.

In the end, Ben made up for his mistakes. The ST's did not. Where was the big return to make up for letting a big return? Defense did not. Where was the shutdown on that last drive to make up for the lapses before that?

Does Ben make mistakes, absolutely, but he makes up for them, neither the D nor special teams made up for thiers... ergo, the blame belongs on ST's and D.
Well said! The interceptions that he threw were probably due to getting his bell rung, he took a lot of punishment ! If the Steelers had a team made up of Bens' They would win the Superbowl every year!
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Well said! The interceptions that he threw were probably due to getting his bell rung, he took a lot of punishment ! If the Steelers had a team made up of Bens' They would win the Superbowl every year!
That is actually the last thing I want. I also want players that will play safe (Ahem, A Smith), Players that will not take risks (Ahem, ST;s), and players that will go all out.
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That is actually the last thing I want. I also want players that will play safe (Ahem, A Smith), Players that will not take risks (Ahem, ST;s), and players that will go all out.
Last thing that you want?
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The ints were not due to Ben getting his bell rung.. really not very knowledgable people making that type of comment.

Mathis picked off the timing route b/c they Steelers ran that same play with Tommy Maddox.. bunch one side. throw a curl route to the other side. Mathis read it again.. and took it to the house.. The steelers should have never ran that play b/c Mathis knows it and boasts about knowing it everytime they run it.

The other play by their lineman was just one heck of a play.. falling over forward, looks up, jumps 3 feet in the air and intercepts Ben.

The throw downfield to Davenport was the only one that was really Bad, and totally Ben's fault. He should have ran it for 2-3 yards, thrown it out of bounds b/c he was outside the tackle box or tried to go to Holmes who was open on that same side. But then again.. it's easy being armchair quarterback.
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