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Old 06-03-2008, 06:49 PM   #11
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The Bengals had a pretty good idea what they were getting when the drafted those two. I refuse to fell sorry for someone that sticks their hand in a bear trap hoping it won't snap shut.
Are you referring to the players or the team?

Because when it comes to addictions, there are SO MANY dynamics involved normally.

Heck, there are times when a person is simply addicted... no matter the substance. It may start with books at 6 years of age, as an escape. That addiction multiplies and transfers to other issues of life, including alcohol, sex, work, drugs, cutting, internet, Steelers Fan Boards (oh wait.. never mind that last one!)

I am all for harsh penalties from the NFL for drug use. I am even for harsh penalties when it comes to the law and drug use. However, I also understand that unless we want to see repeat offenders, we have to see these issues as more than a person simply, "making a choice." It may have started that way for a number of people, but for a number of others, it did not, and furthermore, NONE of them chose addiction... though their actions brought it on.
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:53 PM   #12
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I was referring to the team, but I do think that all to meny times we write off bad behavior to up bringing, depression, or just dosn't know any better. At some point everyone has to take resposablity for his own actions. Its called growing up. The problem is that in the sports world most of these guy have never be asked to. Then they give them 12 millions dollars stand back and watch the disaster.
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Old 06-04-2008, 11:15 AM   #13
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Thurman needs to go into a rehab facility for his substance abuse.

Working construction to keep in shape for his reinstatment to the NFL couldn't have helped his alcohol abuse problems. So many construction workers drink on the job, much less go to a bar together afterwards. Being in an environment around many people that drink doesn't help.
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Old 06-04-2008, 11:41 AM   #14
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Ricky Williams? That cat is a fine upstanding citizen compared to OT. I'd lump Thurman in with Maurice Clarret or OJ Simpson at this stage of the game.
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Old 06-04-2008, 06:14 PM   #15
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Thurman needs to go into a rehab facility for his substance abuse.

Working construction to keep in shape for his reinstatment to the NFL couldn't have helped his alcohol abuse problems. So many construction workers drink on the job, much less go to a bar together afterwards. Being in an environment around many people that drink doesn't help.
yea, you know how us construction worker are with booze and drugs. Heck, I fell off my ladder 4 times last week.
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I want to feel bad for him, but it's just tough. The guy had all of the talent in the world, and just pissed it down the drain. My upbringing wasn't so rosy either, but I worked hard to make something of myself and never made excuses. He could have been one of the best linebackers in the NFL. Sucks to be you Odell. Good luck at Burger King.
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Thurman needs to go into a rehab facility for his substance abuse.

Working construction to keep in shape for his reinstatment to the NFL couldn't have helped his alcohol abuse problems. So many construction workers drink on the job, much less go to a bar together afterwards. Being in an environment around many people that drink doesn't help.
Not good ones, or ones with any sort of common sense. Thats a very broad stroke of the brush there. Dontcha think?

As for Odell, its a shame to see him waste his talent. I hope he can get help and recover.
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The man has to want help...period. Maybe this will push him to want it. It is ashamed, he has wasted away his talent.
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I work at a gas station and we have a ton of construction workers that come in and buy a 24 oucne can of beer on their lunch break guys. I'm not trying to generalize every construction worker on the planet, but from my experience...there are a good few, at least around here, that drink on their lunch break (and some at the job site).
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