Rich Rodriguez was "very distraught" in private meeting the night before he resigned

[MasterOfPuppets]

dukes football program is a joke. they make no effort to even try to be competetive. here's a good article on it......

Duke, stop this charade......
http://www.newsobserver.com/769/story/493554.html
The program has become nothing more than an excuse to spend lots of money on facilities, scholarships, coaching salaries, support staff, travel, stadium upkeep and many other related areas. In college football, losing is an expensive ordeal, and that's especially the case at private schools.

The good news is Duke doesn't care about the steady financial drain. There's that much money in the endowment fund. Most schools try to raise donations by the millions. Duke rakes it in by the billions. The football program can be compared to owners of some professional sports franchises. It's an expensive hobby, but so what?

[TackleMeBen]

Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets

dukes football program is a joke. they make no effort to even try to be competetive. here's a good article on it......

you are so right about that. i dont even know why they put a team on the field. they get laughed at.

[Dino 6 Rings]

Duke has no business in the ACC as a football program. None. They ruin that conference for football. They should be independent so they can play Buffalo, Temple, Amy and Navy every year and throw in some Sun Belt teams to finish out the schedule.

Louisville actually tried to sue Duke in a court of law because Duke backed out of a contract to play them 4 times. Duke argued that any team, in Div I football would be a suitable replacement, because Duke argued, they are that bad in football, anyone could fill up the schedule for Louisville and it wouldn't be a loss.

When you're own lawyers argue you are so bad in football that the other team can find ANY other team to play as a replacement, then dang it, you are a bad team.

You can't make this stuff up people:
http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/...RTS02/80619051

[MasterOfPuppets]

Originally Posted by Dino 5 Rings

Duke has no business in the ACC as a football program. None. They ruin that conference for football. They should be independent so they can play Buffalo, Temple, Amy and Navy every year and throw in some Sun Belt teams to finish out the schedule.

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It's been proposed by some that the program should be dropped down to the NCAA's Division I-AA. If being more competitive becomes important, going I-AA makes some sense. At least it would be a reasonable refuge if Duke really wants to have a program.

Whether the 11 other ACC schools would allow Duke to play I-AA in football and remain a conference member for all other sports is debatable. But I wouldn't bet against it at this point. As long as Mike Krzyzewski is coaching, the ACC needs Duke basketball and the money it generates. A compromise could be worked out.

Besides, moving down in football probably would be the best move for everyone. It's obvious that Duke is hurting ACC football, and ACC football -- weak as it may be -- is is only putting Duke in a progressively more hopeless situation.

The league would have to find a 12th member for football-only purposes, but that could be done. Lots of schools would jump at the opportunity. Duke couldn't share in the football revenue, but it still could schedule nonconference games against North Carolina, N.C. State and Wake Forest.

[TackleMeBen]

Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets

It's been proposed by some that the program should be dropped down to the NCAA's Division I-AA. If being more competitive becomes important, going I-AA makes some sense. At least it would be a reasonable refuge if Duke really wants to have a program.

Whether the 11 other ACC schools would allow Duke to play I-AA in football and remain a conference member for all other sports is debatable. But I wouldn't bet against it at this point. As long as Mike Krzyzewski is coaching, the ACC needs Duke basketball and the money it generates. A compromise could be worked out.

Besides, moving down in football probably would be the best move for everyone. It's obvious that Duke is hurting ACC football, and ACC football -- weak as it may be -- is is only putting Duke in a progressively more hopeless situation.

The league would have to find a 12th member for football-only purposes, but that could be done. Lots of schools would jump at the opportunity. Duke couldn't share in the football revenue, but it still could schedule nonconference games against North Carolina, N.C. State and Wake Forest.

that makes good sense, if the basketball team could stay. but i doubt they would do that. and besides all the other ACC teams need at least one guarteened win..lol

[X-Terminator]

Too bad Rich Fraud didn't choke on those tears...

I hope he loses every game and that OSU beats them 80-0. I'd even root for the Shittany Cryin's against them.

[Godfather]

Originally Posted by revefsreleets

Out of respect for the days when there was a real rivalry, I do believe it's "UM", not MU.

University of Michigan, not Michigan University.

We have stuff like that in the South too. A&M fans call Texas t.u. instead of UT...Texas fans like to respond that it's neither funny nor insulting, just stupid.

We also have a University of Louisiana controversy. USL formally changed its name to UL-Lafayette ten years ago, but they always de-empahasize the Lafayette part. That irritates three other schools--Tulane, which is the actual University of Louisiana; LSU, which as the state flagship is the target of USL's penis envy; and UL-Monroe, which doesn't like being portrayed as a branch campus of USL when they're equals.

[SteelCityMan786]

Originally Posted by X-Terminator

Too bad Rich Fraud didn't choke on those tears...

I hope he loses every game and that OSU beats them 80-0. I'd even root for the Shittany Cryin's against them.

R. Rod I think is doomed to fail at Michigan for at least a couple of years unless he can a good QB rolling as well as some decent receivers. He does not have the tools to do well like he had at WVU. I'm sure every Mountaineer will stick there birds at him when WVU is rolling over the Big East Football Conference like they usually do and Michigan is barely treading water. (Whenever that year comes.)

[revefsreleets]

Originally Posted by Godfather

We have stuff like that in the South too. A&M fans call Texas t.u. instead of UT...Texas fans like to respond that it's neither funny nor insulting, just stupid.

We also have a University of Louisiana controversy. USL formally changed its name to UL-Lafayette ten years ago, but they always de-empahasize the Lafayette part. That irritates three other schools--Tulane, which is the actual University of Louisiana; LSU, which as the state flagship is the target of USL's penis envy; and UL-Monroe, which doesn't like being portrayed as a branch campus of USL when they're equals.

No chance of that happening in Columbus...that's why the players say "THE Ohio State Buckeyes"...