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[tony hipchest]

Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson

No, it again scares me that Bruce Arians will turn this into the 2002 Browns offense with WR's like Kevin Johnson, Northcutt, Quincy Morgan, Andre Davis....with a lone RB like either William Green, Terry Jackson and a 3rd down back like Jameel White.

Spread the field, throw it all around and occasionally hand off while the defense is spread out.

Great to put up numbers, but cant control the clock and run the ball down anybody's throat. The formula for getting to the playoffs.....but not winning in the playoffs!!

but all those players sucked and tim couch/holcomb was the qb. only northcut has shown the staying power of nate washington, let alone holmes, or ward.

were there any te's worthy of mention on that roster?

green, jackson, and white, cant even hold the jock of mewelde moore, let alone any of our other rb's.

im definitely NOT worried about what arians is trying to do based on the bare cupboard he had to cook with in cleveland.

[fansince'76]

Originally Posted by tony hipchest

alot more moving pocket plays were implemented on 7 and 7's specifically to roll ben away and cut down the sacks.

Sounds good - was hoping they would do that a lot sooner, but better late than never.

Originally Posted by fansince'76

My only complaint, if you want to call it that, is that the new regime seems to be continuing what the old regime started last year in trying to turn Ben into a drop straight back and stay in the pocket kind of passer instead of having him roll out more by design, which I think makes him a much more effective QB. Ben is downright deadly when he rolls out, which he proved his first two years. I don't think his natural mobility is being fully utilized, except when the pocket begins to collapse and he has to move to avoid a sack.

[Steelman16]

holmes cant say enough good things about hines or sweed. says sweed is learning to calm down. he came into camp way to jacked.

Funny, but can't say I blame him any!

Thanks for the updates Tony! Good to hear some Steelers football. We're stuck with Sooner football here.

[redst3]

Originally Posted by tony hipchest

kevin colbert coming up. tim ryan just reports casey showed up at 370 lbs.

Holy
Guacamole

[missedgehead]

Originally Posted by tony hipchest

hell no! west coast offense is for pussies who need to learn to (or cant) sling the ball down the field.

there will just be a bit more scheming and technician aspects as opposed to just mauling.

in closing, pat and ryan say ben looked terrific today. (hes looked perfect all camp).

these EXPERTS are giving the AFCNorth edge to the steelers.

Can't wait to see Ben on the field. The west coast offense is for "pussies" like Farve or Joe Montana?

[missedgehead]

Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson

No, it again scares me that Bruce Arians will turn this into the 2002 Browns offense with WR's like Kevin Johnson, Northcutt, Quincy Morgan, Andre Davis....with a lone RB like either William Green, Terry Jackson and a 3rd down back like Jameel White.

Spread the field, throw it all around and occasionally hand off while the defense is spread out.

Great to put up numbers, but cant control the clock and run the ball down anybody's throat. The formula for getting to the playoffs.....but not winning in the playoffs!!

That is my concern as well. I do not like Arians at ALL.

[The Duke]

Originally Posted by missedgehead

Can't wait to see Ben on the field. The west coast offense is for "pussies" like Farve or Joe Montana?

Favre and pussie should never, ever be in the same sentence. leave that for the likes of brady

[xfl2001fan]

Originally Posted by The Duke

Favre and pussie should never, ever be in the same sentence. leave that for the likes of brady

I think she was going for sarcasm, which doesn't always show up well in message boards.

To the comment about spreading the field getting you to the playoffs but not winning, I do recall that Peyton won a Superbowl a few years ago.

[The Duke]

Originally Posted by xfl2001fan

I think she was going for sarcasm, which doesn't always show up well in message boards.

oh yeah, my bad. lol, being corrected by a browns fan, now I feel bad