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Old 09-29-2008, 12:47 PM   #31
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Cowher never had a bad offensive line his entire 15 years in Pittsburgh.
2006....? Don't believe the OL fell apart all of a sudden when Tomlin took the job.
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Old 09-29-2008, 12:51 PM   #32
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Why would we be talking about firing him? We had ONE bad game, and we're still in good position to make a run at the division title be a Super Bowl contender. And if you ask me, we've been pretty smart by addressing LB and RB in the last two drafts -- positions where we were already good but had obvious holes that needed patching. In his one season here, we ended up in the playoffs and had a decent shot right until the last fricking series. Keep up the good work, I say.
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Old 09-29-2008, 12:57 PM   #33
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Cowher's last season in Pittsburgh was when the Offensive Line problem reared it's ugly head. Russ Grimm was part of the problem as well.

Tomlin is still stuck with Cowher's O-Line and a few smelly remnants from that 2006 8-8 team. He's a hell of a coach if he lead this bunch to a division title last year. Tomlin didn't inherit a super bowl winning team. He inherited an underachieving 8-8 team that got shutout twice, lost to the 2-14 Raiders, lost to a division rival by a combined score of 58-7, and had a QB the led the league in interceptions.

But no, let's fire him. I mean, all he did was have a winning season and brought our QB to the next level. We're 2-1 and on a decent pace for a winning season,

The Special Teams (We all know them) have gotten better, so there's hope that the O-Line will get better. Remember the 2002-03 Steelers secondary? I thought that would never be fixed.
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Old 09-29-2008, 02:14 PM   #34
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The sky is falling. The sky is falling. Give the man a break. I don't like the way that game played out any better than anyone else. The game tonight will tell us if they learned their lesson because the hounds will be on the attack. If they fail as miserably and Ben doesn't get rid of the ball quickly, THEN it is the coaches AND Ben's fault. He has some work to do reading blitzes.
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thats absolutely correct !!! it's actually cowher who let the line deteriorate, to the P.O.S. we have today. he new hardings was on his way out.....and he let everybody believe chucky was our next great center.
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Would we rather be like the REDSKINS that has a new coach almost every season???
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Would we rather be like the REDSKINS that has a new coach almost every season???
No Burgh I wouldnt rather us be like anyone other than the Steelers team that I have came to love over the past 30 years...
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That being said, I dont agree with Tomlin and our coaches at times. The Eagles game should have seen Ben throwing shorter routes and using some screen passes and maybe even using the guy that is supposed to be our 3rd down specialist in Melwede Moore a little bit. The guy hasnt even had a chance to do anything in this offense on 3rd downs so far. The guy made plays while at Minnesota, and the Steelers havent even given him a single chance so far in pittsburgh.
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That being said, I dont agree with Tomlin and our coaches at times. The Eagles game should have seen Ben throwing shorter routes and using some screen passes and maybe even using the guy that is supposed to be our 3rd down specialist in Melwede Moore a little bit. The guy hasnt even had a chance to do anything in this offense on 3rd downs so far. The guy made plays while at Minnesota, and the Steelers havent even given him a single chance so far in pittsburgh.
Everyone had a part in the blame of the loss. Yes the OL was crazy terrible, but at the same time Yes Ben should have gotten rid of the ball sooner, sure the calls should have been adjusted to short slant plays and draws, Penalties by everyone didn't help either, and with all those mistakes you can't easily ask for a win and being more discipline and stepping up and ADJUSTING will help us win.
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2006....? Don't believe the OL fell apart all of a sudden when Tomlin took the job.
Combination of Ben face planting into a windshield and our RT sucking really bad in training camp for some reason after starting the Super Bowl year. I do not remember seeing guys waltzing in like nothing that year though. These last two years have been disgusting. The basic fundamentals are lost when a line is that weak.

The fact that the steelers didnt draft any o line early is also a factor. Marvel's back might be finished. And Colon is horrible. Kemo just needs to learn how to pass block and he will be a pro bowler. Hartwig and simmons are very average.
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