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Old 04-18-2009, 06:48 PM   #31
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Default Re: Obama Promise to stop Wiretapping? Not so much...

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Old 04-18-2009, 08:05 PM   #32
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Default Re: Obama Promise to stop Wiretapping? Not so much...

well i wouldn't go as far as saying that gates is not corrupt.. i mean he did steal his idea from mac... lol

i mean u had to have seen Pirates of Silicon Valley...
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Old 04-18-2009, 08:32 PM   #33
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well i wouldn't go as far as saying that gates is not corrupt.. i mean he did steal his idea from mac... lol

i mean u had to have seen Pirates of Silicon Valley...
Excellent point, everyone is susceptible to corruption, government and business alike. Difference for me is that the businesses make no bones about not representing the people.
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Old 04-18-2009, 09:38 PM   #34
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Excellent point, everyone is susceptible to corruption, government and business alike. Difference for me is that the businesses make no bones about not representing the people.
Exactly.

At least with capitalism you have more freedom.

And it is amazing how many liberals talk about capitalism and free markets as if that is the only cause of greed and corruption, as though government is somehow more ethical and moral.....
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Old 04-20-2009, 09:06 AM   #35
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Default Re: Obama Promise to stop Wiretapping? Not so much...

How did we once again get so far off-topic? Can we reel this back in?

A) Obama ran with a very specific promise that he would stop wiretapping. In fact, I believe he called it "Unlawful and immoral"
B) Obama not only failed to stop it, he is now expanding it.

And, if I'm reading this thread correctly (and I believe I am), the liberal response is pretty much "So what. It's just wiretapping and we don't care about that anymore"?

Really?
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And, if I'm reading this thread correctly (and I believe I am), the liberal response is pretty much "So what. It's just wiretapping and we don't care about that anymore"?

Really?
See, when it was Boosh and Qlbermann was squawking about it, it was the worst crime against humanity, the greatest assault on our liberties. Now that its their boy, its all good. Yessiree Bob.
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Default Re: Obama Promise to stop Wiretapping? Not so much...

my take on the wiretapping is idc...

if no one came out about it now one would of known.

ppl want there privacy?? then y the eff do ppl go on facebook or myspace and blast it evrywhere..

doesn't make sense
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That does seem to be the case...
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Default Re: Obama Promise to stop Wiretapping? Not so much...

I don't have a cell phone, so they can try to wiretap me all they want. My land line is used to call family only.

But I'm not against tapping the phones of people here on Visas that are calling back to countries like Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Egypt, Syria, or any other nation with a Crescent Moon on their national flag.

Yep, I'm not against that at all.

I am against them wasting time listening in on the phones of little old ladies from mid American who are exchanging Pie Recipies in the interest of "fairness".

Catch the Bad Guys, leave the Citizens and Good People of this Country Alone.
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es from mid American who are exchanging Pie Recipies in the interest of "fairness".

Catch the Bad Guys, leave the Citizens and Good People of this Country Alone.
Problem is we're all good people until we get caught saying something on a wiretap.
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