Does Obama "Hate White People? Native Americans"?

[xfl2001fan]

Originally Posted by HAWK

Are all politicians scum? No. But there's enough of them. So because I agree with some and disagree with others then I'm a "kool-aid" drinker? That's a two way street. Basically you've told me that anyone who doesn't agree with you is a piece of trash that should be disposed of. That's real American of you.

As far as Obama's policy. Only time will tell at this point. My point is, and has been all along, that there's a smaller difference between R's & D's these days than we'd like to admit. So everybody stop drinking the Kool-Aid ( see what I did there??) and pretending it's all the other guy's fault.

No, people who disagree with me based on an intelligent foundation are OK by me. You're trash based on your comments. Big difference. You know, the whole killing Iraqis comment. Because, by your assessment, that's what I am. An Iraqi killer. That's real American of you.

The difference is still big enough. Some of the idiotic things he proposes go against the very foundation of my beliefs. The very core.

[xfl2001fan]

Originally Posted by tony hipchest

pretty much par for the course, around here.

Tony, we rarely ever see eye to eye. And yet, I still have mad respect for you.

[HAWK]

Originally Posted by tony hipchest

pretty much par for the course, around here.

I see.

[HAWK]

Originally Posted by xfl2001fan

You're trash based on your comments. Big difference. You know, the whole killing Iraqis comment. Because, by your assessment, that's what I am. An Iraqi killer. That's real American of you.

Well I tried to explain my point. Obviously, you have no interest in listening to what I was saying.

[tony hipchest]

Originally Posted by HAWK

First off, I apologize for being so glib when referring to our troops. I was referring to our governments gross misuse of our military's men and women.

i got that when i firt read it just by the tone of the post. the problem around here is anyone who is a conservative here will take every one of your sentences literally (and even go the extent of twisting them, putting words in your mouth, or go as far as completely making shit up) and then hold your feet in the fire for it.

Originally Posted by xfl2001fan

No, people who disagree with me based on an intelligent foundation are OK by me. You're trash based on your comments. Big difference. You know, the whole killing Iraqis comment. Because, by your assessment, that's what I am. An Iraqi killer. That's real American of you.

*see top of post*

[HAWK]

I'm beginning to see that.

[xfl2001fan]

First off, I apologize for being so glib when referring to our troops. I was referring to our governments gross misuse of our military's men and women.

That's just it. This comment is not explanation. It's back-pedaling. What's the murder rate been in America since we went to war in 2003? Forget America, what's it been in Los Angeles?

Misuse? So, building hospitals, homes, businesses, churches has to be overlooked? You're ignoring all of the good we're doing and for what? To call our troops Iraqi killers. Because, no matter how you slice it, it's not the politicians pulling the trigger.

While I don't necessarily agree with the war that Bush took into Iraq, I can tell you, having been there, we've done a lot of good. Ousting a dictator and helping the Iraqis stand up on their own two feet will have done far more to improve things between the US and the Middle East (in the long run) because we are setting a foundation of peace and partnership with the people there. Maybe not with the misguided Islam Extremists...but then again, many of the Iraqis don't want them there either. They've just spent a lifetime of being "trained" to fear them more than they desire freedom. That culture of fear is disappearing.

It sucks that I've lost so many brothers and sisters in arms over this. I don't like it any more than the next guy.

[GBMelBlount]

tony hipchest

the problem around here is anyone who is a conservative here will take every one of your sentences literally

When have I ever quoted a small part of one sentence from one of your posts and made a big deal about it!!!!!!!!!!

[GBMelBlount]

I was just kidding.

I know I do that. Irritating, isn't it?

[HAWK]

Originally Posted by xfl2001fan

That's just it. This comment is not explanation. It's back-pedaling. What's the murder rate been in America since we went to war in 2003? Forget America, what's it been in Los Angeles?

Misuse? So, building hospitals, homes, businesses, churches has to be overlooked? You're ignoring all of the good we're doing and for what? To call our troops Iraqi killers. Because, no matter how you slice it, it's not the politicians pulling the trigger.

While I don't necessarily agree with the war that Bush took into Iraq, I can tell you, having been there, we've done a lot of good. Ousting a dictator and helping the Iraqis stand up on their own two feet will have done far more to improve things between the US and the Middle East (in the long run) because we are setting a foundation of peace and partnership with the people there. Maybe not with the misguided Islam Extremists...but then again, many of the Iraqis don't want them there either. They've just spent a lifetime of being "trained" to fear them more than they desire freedom. That culture of fear is disappearing.

It sucks that I've lost so many brothers and sisters in arms over this. I don't like it any more than the next guy.

I'm not sure what you're getting at about America's murder rates...but I otherwise agree with most of your posting. Our military has personally done many good things. Unfortunately, the gov has left them out in the cold. Cheney's misuse and favoritism of Haliburton alone is incredible. Not to mention the misplaced reasoning for going to Iraq in the first place. The list gets longer everyday. But in the end our military is trained to not ask why. Just to do it. Which is why i don't blame the soldier.

There's next to no mentioning of the war's financial impact our the current state of our economy. $4trillion had to come from some where. But we're going to cry about a stimulus plan AFTER blowing $4 trillion in Iraq? That's the double standard I can't wrap my mind around. That's all. How about we spend some of that money building schools, churches, and businesses in this country. Oh wait...that's Socialism if we do it here.