Arlen Specter = proven idiot

[tony hipchest]

Originally Posted by xfl2001fan

As for your last line, that's the best you got? Some made up stunt? It's obvious that you have because that's the only "intelligent" argument you seem to be able to resort to.

c'mon, i know youre smarter than that. its called a metaphor. you know... a figure of speech?

I suppose that the Saudi Prince stopped being our buddy for the 8 years that Clinton was in office? Or do you ignore that long period of time in between the last two republicans?

i ignored (forgot) that clinton was a big time texan oil tycoon.

[revefsreleets]

Clinton was far more partial to the Chinese...and they seemed to like Clinton's style...suitcases of cash are none too subtle, and neither was he.

[tony hipchest]

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...HO-CAD97SA8780

Democrats: GOP should be more like their party

WASHINGTON (AP) — Congressional Democratic leaders said Wednesday that Sen. Arlen Specter's party switch is a sign that Republicans should become more like, well, Democrats.

"I say to Republicans in America, take back your party," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., told reporters. "The party of protecting the environment, the party of individual rights, the party of fairness."

Specter stunned the political world Tuesday when he defected to the Democrats, saying there weren't enough moderates in Pennsylvania for him to win a GOP primary.

Many Republicans said good riddance, but there was no denying that Specter sent shock waves through the GOP.

As for Pelosi's advice: House Republicans said thanks, but no thanks.

"It seems unlikely that the most liberal Democratic speaker of the House in history is the best strategist for the Republican Party," said Michael Steel, spokesman for House Republican Leader John Boehner of Ohio. "House Republicans will continue to show the American people that we are the party of better solutions."

Pelosi said Republicans should return to some core issues, such as the environment.

"Our country needs a strong Republican Party," she said.

"But not too strong," added her Senate counterpart, Democratic Leader Harry Reid of Nevada.

[SteelersinCA]

The Dems wouldn't be half bad if they got rid of Pelosi and Reid.

[tony hipchest]

Originally Posted by SteelersinCA

The Dems wouldn't be half bad if they got rid of Pelosi and Reid.

didnt you hear? the GOP traded a. specter for pelosi and reid during the draft.

[BIGBENFASTWILLIE]

Originally Posted by SCSTILLER

Hmmm, what platform did the majority of Dems run on in the electionI beleive you are talking about? Lets see, if I remember right, it was vote for us Democrats and we will end the Iraq conflict. Guess what, still there. Hell, the ones that beat their fists on the podium stating that they would get us out of Iraq if elected in are the same ones that turned around pretty quick and signed onto more money for the conflict. All the Dems did in that election was tell the sheeple what they wanted to hear, and then flip right around and do what they wanted. The democratic party does not have a platform to stand on, they say one thing and do the other. Look at Obama taking on Bush's "failed" policies as his own. At least Bush, as much as I disagreed with him on some policies, told you what he was going to do flat out, whether you liked it or not.

What really scares me about this Specter jumping ship thing is that with Specter a dem now, and Franken looking like he is going to win in Minnesota is this gives the Dems the magic 60. They now have cloture, and the only defense the Republicans had to defeat a bill is now gone if the dems want it that way. I cannot wait for the next Congressional election, our country needs it to get here soon.

We will be getting out of Iraq much faster than bush would have while increasing troops in afghanistan

[SteelCityMan786]

Specter courtesy of this move has officially lost my vote for 2010. I was seriously considering voting for him if he stayed Republican. But backstabbing your party and attempting to run away from what you have done while in said party tells me you are no longer fit to stay in office.

Plus, I feel Specter is going to lose anyway. If he were to run against Pat Toomey, he's already trailing 51%-30% out of likely voters in the 2010 election according the rasmussen poll. He's due to lose if the last election cycle was any sign of people wanting to get younger people in congress.

2010 as someone mentioned earlier needs to be like 1994. With the current hatred being spread towards Pelosi and the current Democratic Leadership in congress, I have a feeling that the Democrats majority if not lost completely, will end up being cut down to 1-5 seat majorities.

[trauben]

Originally Posted by SteelersinCA

The Dems wouldn't be half bad if they got rid of Pelosi and Reid.

You've gotta be kidding me. That's a joke, right?

[BIGBENFASTWILLIE]

GO STEELERS!!!!

[xfl2001fan]

Originally Posted by BIGBENFASTWILLIE

We will be getting out of Iraq much faster than bush would have while increasing troops in afghanistan

You're right, but it's not bringing the troops home so much as redirecting where they fight overseas. Pretty soon, the Dems'll be pushing (in public) for us to be getting out of Afghan...and asking/signing off on us going to Korea.