bho is what he is

[SteelersinCA]

So cute, you have internet stalkers too!!!!

[revefsreleets]

Stalker #1, c'mon down!

[BIGBENFASTWILLIE]

Originally Posted by Vincent

Once again, public school has done its job well. What wars revolved around religion? Aside from the crusades, none comes to mind.

OK, the one we're in does. Religious zealots highjacked our airplanes and flew them into our buildings. Then Booosh declared that the global war on terror had begun and seized the iraqi oil fields and a bunch of "freedom fighters" got killed in the process. But that's not a war because once we got rid of Booosh it became the "Overseas Contingency Operation".

Oh, and of course there have been the various genocides in Africa over the last half century. But those weren't wars. Just a bunch of Christians being starved, shot or hacked to death.

What religious wars do you speak of?

Well... Lets look at Iraq..... 2 religious groups hate eachother?
Afghanistan? Muslim extreamist?
Hitler? WWII???
Every war revolves in someway around religion.....

[Vincent]

Originally Posted by BIGBENFASTWILLIE

Well... Lets look at Iraq..... 2 religious groups hate eachother?
Afghanistan? Muslim extreamist?
Hitler? WWII???
Every war revolves in someway around religion.....

Rather an obtuse statement.

Iraq was a secular state before we removed saddam. It is currently a republic. You are correct that several religious factions inside Iraq go at it. And some Americans are "religious". But the war we call "the Iraq war" was the invasion of one secular state by another for (pick a) reason.

One side of the war in Afghanistan are religious extremists. I'll give you that one.

WWII is what happens when we allow socialist regimes to establish too much power. A lot of "religious" people from many walks of life perished. But I have never heard anyone suggest that WWII revolved around religion.

WWI? Spanish-American war? Franco-Prussian war? Civil war? War of 1812? Revolution? French & Indian war? 100 years war? Norman invasion of England? Nope.

The 30 year war and the Crusades I'll give you.

Most of the "war" currently underway involves muslims exterminating non-muslims or secular states corralling said muslims. The problem would seem to be practitioners of the "religion of peace" rather than the other 6 billion inhabitants of Earth that actually practice their "religions" in peace.

[Vincent]

Originally Posted by revefsreleets

By the by, we are not allies with Israel over oil. We are allies with Israel because:

A) We need allies in that part of the World regardless
B) The US has a HUGE Jewish population...if I'm not mistaken (and, Christ, I'm sure one of my internet stalkers will do the research and throw it back in my face if I am, thereby adding to their phyrric victory total), there are more Jews living in the US than any other Country outside of Israel.

The partnership with Israel is a strategic one, not a tactical one. We have been and NEED TO continue to be allies with Israel for our own good as well as theirs.

There is no doubt that Obama has changed our policy towards Israel, but I don't believe he's stupid enough to damage it irreparably.

Agree entirely with all except why bho is doing this.

I believe his muslimness (like Guatemalaness ) is driving this. He said steadfastly that he'd coo up to our enemies. His global embarrassment tour validated it. In these changes in our support of Israel, he is materially strengthening the hands of her enemies, while materially weakening her ability to defend herself. That isn't stupidity. That's design.

[SteelersinCA]

Originally Posted by SteelersinCA

Maybe god will give the Jews a new place to call Israel. I got news for you, when we are done with oil, Israel will be on her own. The ole clock is ticking on Israel.

2 pages later and nary a mention of oil....

Originally Posted by revefsreleets

By the by, we are not allies with Israel over oil. We are allies with Israel because:

A) We need allies in that part of the World regardless
B) The US has a HUGE Jewish population...if I'm not mistaken (and, Christ, I'm sure one of my internet stalkers will do the research and throw it back in my face if I am, thereby adding to their phyrric victory total), there are more Jews living in the US than any other Country outside of Israel.

The partnership with Israel is a strategic one, not a tactical one. We have been and NEED TO continue to be allies with Israel for our own good as well as theirs.

There is no doubt that Obama has changed our policy towards Israel, but I don't believe he's stupid enough to damage it irreparably.

Originally Posted by SteelersinCA

So cute, you have internet stalkers too!!!!

Originally Posted by revefsreleets

Stalker #1, c'mon down!

Sweet. Simple. Irony.

[revefsreleets]

You're getting angry, aren't you?

[SteelersinCA]

Nah, I love proving you wrong and watching you scurry behind your "I don't really care" excuse. Pitiful. I feel sorry for you.

[drewcary]

I'm still waiting for him to produce a birth certificate.

[xfl2001fan]

Originally Posted by drewcary

I'm still waiting for him to produce a birth certificate.

We're still waiting on you to produce a birth certificate.

I don't know where you get that you have the right to that sort of private information, but you clearly have some serious issues.