Suggs signs $63M deal

[Ravnet]

Originally Posted by revefsreleets

I don't, no. But that's not what I do.

But the Steelers would have never signed this ridiculous contract. How do I know? Because they have no one on their team signed to such a ridiculous contract! And they are in every way the superior franchise to the Ratbirds, including having better talent at just about every position on the field.

Suggs is a good player. Would he start for the Steelers? Hmmmmm...hard to say, really...

I´ll happily agree that Pittsburgh is the better franchise and that the Steelers have more talent at nearly every position, but in my opinion, the gap isn´t very wide.

[Ravnet]

Originally Posted by xfl2001fan

You lost all credibility in your arguments with that post. You had an organization already built from the ground up, well established, etc..

The Ravens were never an expansion team...they are a stolen franchise.

You lost all credibility by putting “the Browns” and “well established” in the same sentence.

The Ravens are only a stolen franchise because the Colts were stolen from us.

[Ravnet]

Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets

have ya checked the roster lately ?

Clayton, Mark................5th year
Figurs, Yamon...............3rd yr
Harper, Justin................2nd
Mason, Derrick..............oops
Riley, Eron.....................0
Smith, Marcus...............2nd
Washington, Kelley......7th
Wheelwright, Ernie.......1
Williams, Demetrius . .4th
Williams, Edward..........1
Williams, Isaiah............0

nuff said ......

Yes, excellent point; because the Ravens are weak at literally one position, Ozzie Newsome is clearly a failed GM.

[MasterOfPuppets]

Originally Posted by Ravnet

I´ll happily agree that Pittsburgh is the better franchise and that the Steelers have more talent at nearly every position, but in my opinion, the gap isn´t very wide.

here's how wide the gap is..... steelers 3 ravens 0

[MasterOfPuppets]

Originally Posted by Ravnet

Yes, excellent point; because the Ravens are weak at literally one position, Ozzie Newsome is clearly a failed GM.

well when your ONLY good receiver is 35, and you don't even bother to spend a draft pick on one, well ...........

[MasterOfPuppets]

Originally Posted by Ravnet

You lost all credibility by putting “the Browns” and “well established” in the same sentence.

The Ravens are only a stolen franchise because the Colts were stolen from us.

so i guess going from shit brown to gay purple, made them established ?

[Ravnet]

Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets

well when your ONLY good receiver is 35, and you don't even bother to spend a draft pick on one, well ...........

Willie Anderson was done, and we needed a right tackle to fill that position. At the time of the draft, there were no indications that Mason was going to retire.

[xfl2001fan]

Originally Posted by Ravnet

You lost all credibility by putting “the Browns” and “well established” in the same sentence.

The Ravens are only a stolen franchise because the Colts were stolen from us.

And you continue to show your ignorance as you fail to recognize the organization that you stole was a well established organization. They had an ownership (however terrible he was with finances) that had been in place for a while as well as a complete team that had played together for years (or at least every bit as much as any other organization in the NFL team.)

I could care less about your whiney-assed Colts leaving you. Attendance (or the lack thereof) was a huge reason for leaving. The stadium was an issue...but so was ours...and yet we sold out game after game (and if we didn't sell out, it was still close.)

You are talking about two completely different scenarios.

[MasterOfPuppets]

Originally Posted by Ravnet

Willie Anderson was done, and we needed a right tackle to fill that position. At the time of the draft, there were no indications that Mason was going to retire.

so how about last year...the year before ? mason didn't turn 35 over night. not to mention they haven't had a legit # 2,3 since ??? its not like you have a dependable TE for a young qb to fall back on.

[MasterOfPuppets]

Originally Posted by xfl2001fan

I could care less about your whiney-assed Colts leaving you. Attendance (or the lack thereof) was a huge reason for leaving. The stadium was an issue...but so was ours...and yet we sold out game after game (and if we didn't sell out, it was still close.)

You are talking about two completely different scenarios.

The Colts were unhappy with the condition of the stadium they played in and Indianapolis offered them a new indoor dome.

Robert Irsay, the Colts owner, had many problems with Baltimore and the stadium, Memorial stadium.

1. Due to being far from the downtown area and any major highway, traffic to and from Colt games was very heavy and tied up traffic and trapped locals in their homes. It was also hard to find being about seven miles fron the downtown area on 33rd street. Many fans got lost getting to or coming from the stadium.

2. The stadium was a very poor football stadium and the seating bowl ended at the fifty yard line, the end zone near 36th street was open taking away money making seats. It also no club level. It was far behind its time.

3. The city of Baltimore would not allow the Colts to play at the NFL's usual start time at one. Instead, they started at two which by law. Sports events were not allow to start before two on Sundays. Because of this the Colts had a hard time being on national T.V.

4. The Orioles, the city's baseball team, also used the stadium and had control over food sales, and parking fees even during football season despite the fact that both teams payed a rent fee.

]5. The team was playing poorly and attentence went to about 20,000 in a stadium that could hold 60,000.

6. The city wanted to upgrade the stadium but both teams had different demands and the city could not make both happy so it did not upgrade the stadium.

In the spring of 1984 the Colts lease on the stadium was up and Irsay wanted a new stadium or to move. Instead of working out plans with Irsay, Maryland's senate passed a law that allowed the state to take the team from him by the powers of eminemt domain. All that was needed was the law to pass by the House of Delegates. That was enough for Irsay to decide what to do. He moved his team Indianapols and its Hoosier Dome. Baltimore did however learn from its mistakes. When the Orioles said they had a lot of the same problems with the stadium (location and condition for example,) and threatened to move to Washington D.C., Baltimore built Oriole Park at Camden Yards . Just six years later they would build M&T Bank Stadium for a new NFL team, the Ravens.

here's a few facts i wasn't aware of... after reading this, i can't hardly blame irsay !!!