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Old 08-20-2009, 02:03 PM   #31
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Yep. Plax would have been better off killing someone while driving under the influence. No doubt he was a fool to pack that weapon the way he did and shoot himself, but I bet there are NYC felons who commited burglaries and robberies and got far less jailtime.

This is all politically motivated - the mayor is pimping his re-election bid. Any other NFL city and he would probably have gotten off with a much lighter charge, if any. Burress paid a fairly heavy price to find out what it feels like to get shot.

Mandatory minimum sentences are unconstitutional!
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i guess thats why they have different degree's for major offenses, i guess they would just have to expand on that. oh and by the way, pleading ignorance to the law is an unacceptable excuse... i tried that one a few years ago on a seatbelt violation in another state ...and the cop told me "thats your bad" ....
Well, yeah, there are all kinds of different guidelines about enhancements for certain situations, mitigating circumstances for others, and a thousand other situations, to help judges and juries hand out appropriate sentences. Most of them are good ideas, too. I think the problem with mandatory minimums is that they come into conflict with that, and bring it back toward a one-size-fits-all punishment no matter what the guidelines originally said.

I get your point about how if you put it ALL in the hands of the judge, you could end up with mistakes being made. But getting rid of human judgment entirely is probably going to make just as many mistakes.

And don't even get me started about ignorance of the law; I've had my run-in with that too. My experience was when I was driving through Oregon and running low on gas ... so I pulled into a station, got out and started pumping. About 10 seconds later, the attendant came running out screaming "What the hell are you DOING?" and just stood there staring at me like I had two dicks. Turns out Oregon has a law against pumping your own gas; you HAVE to have the station attendant do it for you. Anyway, right then a cop showed up (whether by chance or because the attendant called them I don't know) and asked what was going on ... when I tried to explain I was from California and never heard of such a crazy law, he just sort of chuckled and sneered at me -- apparently, in Oregon, they have a certain contempt for Californians and their overpopulated big-city lifestyles.

So he gave me a notice to appear in court instead of a regular ticket -- basically to be a dick, because it meant I'd have to drive all the way up to Oregon again. But the joke was on them because I never showed up, betting the DA would never waste his time filing charges over something so stupid, which turned out to be correct.
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Didn't the mayor say right off the bat that he was going to come down hard on Plex and throw the book at him?
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The other thing that you're not mentioning is that Plex was carrying an unregistered gun.
Two years is still excessive.

In spite of his dumbassery, at the end of the day he's going to jail for having a gun. That's disturbing.
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Didn't the mayor say right off the bat that he was going to come down hard on Plex and throw the book at him?
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Mayor Bloomberg fuming over Plaxico shooting: "Throw the book at him."

An irate Mayor Bloomberg Monday demanded that prosecutors throw the book at Giants star Plaxico Burress for bringing a loaded handgun into a crowded midtown nightclub and accidentally shooting himself in the leg.



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plex will get off for good behavior and pierce is very lucky he isnt doing time with plex in the hokey.
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I don't feel bad for Plaxico at all.

He was offered a plea deal with just 3 months in prison. He turned it down.

Now he realized that he broke a few laws and will end up with at least 3 years if it goes to trial.

And as for mandatory minimum sentences, I don't have a problem with them.

New York has strong gun laws for a reason.

Plax had been living in New York for a few years. He can't say he just moved there and had not yet had a chance to register his gun. He thought he was being "gangsta" carrying an unregistered loaded gun into a night club.

I still wanna know, if you're gonna be packing heat....why the hell would you wear sweatpants? You should be wearing jeans.
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I thought he was going to get at most a week considering this is a big name guy.
Now the eagles get to sign him when he's reinstated
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Two years is still excessive.

In spite of his dumbassery, at the end of the day he's going to jail for having a gun. That's disturbing.
How is it disturbing? He should have registered it, and then maybe he wouldn't be in so much heat. Maybe he should have gotten his license to conceal a firearm in the state of New York, then there would be even less heat on him.

While we all have a right to bare arms, there are certain laws to have to follow to do so in a legal manner, otherwise anyone can run around with a gun without any legal ramifications for doing so.

Plaxico Burress doesn't have the excuse that he couldn't afford to register his gun or get his license to conceal, he was just to damn lazy and/or felt he was above the law due to playing pro football.

He found out wrong. Shot himself in the leg, and then in the foot when he turned down a plea deal that would have forced him to serve only three months.
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