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Old 08-20-2009, 03:17 PM   #41
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Two years is still excessive.

In spite of his dumbassery, at the end of the day he's going to jail for having a gun. That's disturbing.
I'm not saying I don't agree with you (or the other sentiments thrown around in this thread) I'm just saying, the law was out there and he got busted.

It's kind of like if I get caught speeding in PA. There are signs that tell me the amout of my speeding fine if caught. I know speeding and firing a gun are two different things I'm just saying, the law was out there and Plex was an idiot.
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hahaha LMAO hes a dam fool should have goten the 3 1/2 yrs ...
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Old 08-20-2009, 04:35 PM   #44
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haha...the jokes on plax ....
No. Plax IS the joke
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Old 08-20-2009, 04:46 PM   #45
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I think its a bit much to give this guy 2 years. I understand the laws in NY, but you have to also understand the reason for those laws. They were designed to prevent people from using Handguns in the Commission of a Crime. The Minimum sentance was to Deter people who were Thinking About using a Gun in an unlawful way from actually carrying one around with them because if found on their possession, bang, 2 years.

Plax wasn't going out to shoot anyone, or rob a store, or car jack some fool. He had it on him because one of his fellow players had just been robbed at gun point, and he felt like he could have been a target. He takes the gun to the night club, then accidentally shoots himself.

Then the Mayor, in a Fury and a PR Grab declares "no quarter" and uses Plax as an example.

Tell you what, if the Giants Miss the playoffs, and the people of NY think "If we only had Plax" well the Mayor can kiss his re-election bid good bye.

Very Uncalled For ruling. Should have been fined and maybe some house arrest. INTENTION of CRIME was the reasoning behind the Gun Laws in NYC. Now we just throw that part of it out and throw this guy to the wolves so some slap happy Mayor can get some Press.

Totally Dumb.
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I think its a bit much to give this guy 2 years. I understand the laws in NY, but you have to also understand the reason for those laws. They were designed to prevent people from using Handguns in the Commission of a Crime. The Minimum sentance was to Deter people who were Thinking About using a Gun in an unlawful way from actually carrying one around with them because if found on their possession, bang, 2 years.

Plax wasn't going out to shoot anyone, or rob a store, or car jack some fool. He had it on him because one of his fellow players had just been robbed at gun point, and he felt like he could have been a target. He takes the gun to the night club, then accidentally shoots himself.

Then the Mayor, in a Fury and a PR Grab declares "no quarter" and uses Plax as an example.

Tell you what, if the Giants Miss the playoffs, and the people of NY think "If we only had Plax" well the Mayor can kiss his re-election bid good bye.

Very Uncalled For ruling. Should have been fined and maybe some house arrest. INTENTION of CRIME was the reasoning behind the Gun Laws in NYC. Now we just throw that part of it out and throw this guy to the wolves so some slap happy Mayor can get some Press.

Totally Dumb.
But Plax already had the gun when he became a New York Giant. He didn't run out and buy it that day or the day before.

He had YEARS to register the gun and get a license to conceal it in the state of New York. He never did, leaving himself open to get charged with this stuff if ever caught with it.

He would be getting charged with the same things if he used the gun in self defense.

The law is the law. It is against the law to own an unregistered gun. It is against the law to conceal a gun without the proper license. I don't see what is so hard to understand about that. It doesn't matter for what reasons you have it, to legally have it in the state of New York it has to be registered and you must have a license to carry a concealed gun.

Plax didn't. He also had a chance to take a plea deal that would have given him just three months in jail. He said no and now he's stuck with the two year deal they offered after the grand jury decided to indict.

This is nobody's fault but Plaxico's. He deserves the two years, IMHO.
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See, again, I disagree.

He had it registered in Florida right? So it isn't like he was a criminal to start with. He did the right thing initially with the gun. Your argument actually backs up mine. He didn't just run out and buy the gun that day, to commit a crime, he had the gun with zero incidents for years. The Law was designed to Punish Criminals who use guns or may use guns in the commission of a crime.

This is a clear case of a Law being used to punish someone it shouldn't be punishing. Sure, drug dealer gang bangers with guns in their hips should go to jail for carrying for 2 years. A guy who had a liscense in a different state, and didn't use the gun any other time, and simply didn't realize he needed to re-register the gun in NY, now goes to jail for 2 years?

Nothing but a snot nosed Mayor trying to make a name for himself and get re-elected after his TERM LIMITS are already over.

Bloomberg is a Snake and this case is a clear case of him abusing the law for his own personal gain.
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The Minimum sentance was to Deter people who were Thinking About using a Gun in an unlawful way from actually carrying one around with them because if found on their possession, bang, 2 years.

Very Uncalled For ruling. Should have been fined and maybe some house arrest. INTENTION of CRIME was the reasoning behind the Gun Laws in NYC. Now we just throw that part of it out and throw this guy to the wolves so some slap happy Mayor can get some Press.
That's exactly what I'm saying. Mandatory minimum sentences are stupid because they're a blanket decision made at the political level, which acts as if all crimes are exactly the same as long as they fit a certain set of guidelines. Here in the real world, that's far from true.

Stupid as I think Burress is for this, it's is obviously a law that was intended for people like gang members and crack dealers, which is not what was going on here. It's pretty comical that the city officials are actually PROUD to announce that they're applying the law to the wrong situation and basically overriding common sense in order to go by the book. And even more comical that some people see that as a good thing. Something should've happened to Burress, but not this.
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See, again, I disagree.

He had it registered in Florida right? So it isn't like he was a criminal to start with. He did the right thing initially with the gun. Your argument actually backs up mine. He didn't just run out and buy the gun that day, to commit a crime, he had the gun with zero incidents for years. The Law was designed to Punish Criminals who use guns or may use guns in the commission of a crime.

This is a clear case of a Law being used to punish someone it shouldn't be punishing. Sure, drug dealer gang bangers with guns in their hips should go to jail for carrying for 2 years. A guy who had a liscense in a different state, and didn't use the gun any other time, and simply didn't realize he needed to re-register the gun in NY, now goes to jail for 2 years?

Nothing but a snot nosed Mayor trying to make a name for himself and get re-elected after his TERM LIMITS are already over.

Bloomberg is a Snake and this case is a clear case of him abusing the law for his own personal gain.
And then he chose not to register it in the state of New York, or get a license to conceal it in New York. Why he chose not to do so, I don't know.

Also, he had a chance to take a deal where he would have serves three months in jail. He would have probably served less than two months total. He turns that plea deal down banking on the case getting dropped or the grand jury not indicting him on the charges.

Surprise! They don't drop the case and the grand jury indicts. If convicted, he will get a minimum of 3 1/2 years in jail so he grabs the 2 year plea deal on the table.

IMHO, he deserves the two years for his total stupidity. Stupidity by not registering the gun and getting a license to conceal in the state of New York. Stupidity for toting the gun in a pair of sweat pants. Stupidity for not taking the 3 month plea deal.

He had to have known that in New York gun laws are very strict. He chose to ignore them or to never see what they were. He felt his status as a star football player for the Giants put him above the laws of the place he lived.
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Also, he had a chance to take a deal where he would have serves three months in jail. He would have probably served less than two months total. He turns that plea deal down banking on the case getting dropped or the grand jury not indicting him on the charges.
Yeah, now THAT'S the stupid part.

You know, what they offered actually seems about right for the severity of what happened. I wonder if the DA routinely offers plea deals like that when 3 1/2 years obviously doesn't fit the situation. Kind of a way to circumvent the mandatory minimum sentence and give those people what they actually deserve. In that context, Burress would have no one to blame but himself.
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