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Old 11-19-2009, 07:09 PM   #31
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Default Re: Things Ben must work on to be considered "elite"...

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You know last year about this time there was talk about replacing Ben with Leftwich. I know we would like Ben to be better but I think he is pretty dang good right now, and yes I can accept the fact that our players and coaches have bad games. Guys as much as we would like it to be we are not going to win every game even against the Bengals or Browns. I do believe we are better than the Bengals and at the very least have split with them, but they had a better game plan than us last game and/or we had a very poor plan and/or our players did not perform as expected take your pick. As far as Peyton or Brady being what we would like Ben to be, imo, Ben is much better in clutch than Peyton. Has everyone forgotten how in Peytons career at Bens stage he was known as "could not win the big one" or how many times has Brady won the big one since :spygate". Granted both are talented QB's, Both will be talked up for HOF consideration, but I for one am happy with our "second tier" winner of a QB.

Ben can't be perfect everyday and he's had a few bad games and one just happened to be in a game we needed to win, but it's all good. Just put it behind you and move one
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Old 11-19-2009, 07:13 PM   #32
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Default Re: Things Ben must work on to be considered "elite"...

Ben had a bad game. Geez people. It happens. The Bengals played a great defensive scheme and flustered Ben. Give them credit.

Now if Ben was having a subpar season with several subpar games in a row, then yeah. The dude deserves to be ripped, but Ben's earned his mulligan.
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Default Re: Things Ben must work on to be considered "elite"...

listen, the OP isnt about ben, the team, or the coaches having a bad game therefore the areas of improvements should just be dismissed. these are things ben can work on even when we are on 5 game winning streaks or winning superbowls.

to further illustrate this, think of how many times youve heard that we should run more no huddle/ hurry up offense and how productive we are in this set.

hundreds! why are we so productive? because ben gets the ball out of his hands quickly. he usually knows which receiver the ball is going to before he even takes the snap. as soon as his back foot is planted, the ball comes out.

when we are not running the hurry up, alot of times you will see him plant the back foot in his drop THEN survey the field to see who is most open. if nobody is open, he buys more time. this is a great part of his game for big plays, but can also lead to sacks when he coulda made a quick decisive pass for 5-7 yds.

i dont think anyone would suggest he change his game. only continue to improve on it.

guys like brady, favre, manning, rivers, were raised by coaches or ex nfl qb's. they were born and bred for the last 25 years to be a college (and hopefully nfl) quarterback.

ben was just an atheletic high school jock who was excellent at all sports. he has played qb for less than 10 years. he can and will improve.
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