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Old 12-09-2009, 09:18 AM   #21
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True, but who would you take off? I think all 5 are deserving of invites even Suh.

But I agree Spiller is good i do like him
They don't have to take anyone off. It's just like last year when they left off Graham Harrell. They need to acknowledge someone like Spiller; he was the only player to score a TD in every game played and they were from rush, pass, and returns. Spiller is a player who is a true threat no matter where he plays on the field.

I remember watching something on ESPN and they said that Spiller wouldn't be invited because he is not a "winner". Well if they want the best players from the best teams as opposed to the best players in the nation; then just like the BCS the Heisman will become a joke. Now i know that they invited Suh and Gerhart but seriously we all know they won't be in the top 3 in voting and I honestly believe it's because the teams they are on.
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Old 12-09-2009, 10:19 AM   #22
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They don't have to take anyone off. It's just like last year when they left off Graham Harrell. They need to acknowledge someone like Spiller; he was the only player to score a TD in every game played and they were from rush, pass, and returns. Spiller is a player who is a true threat no matter where he plays on the field.

I remember watching something on ESPN and they said that Spiller wouldn't be invited because he is not a "winner". Well if they want the best players from the best teams as opposed to the best players in the nation; then just like the BCS the Heisman will become a joke. Now i know that they invited Suh and Gerhart but seriously we all know they won't be in the top 3 in voting and I honestly believe it's because the teams they are on.
Idk about that, alot of voters on espn who have decided to let us know who they voted for or who they would vote for and alot say Gerhart.

I also thought there was a limit to who could be invited to the Ceremony too, thats why i said who do you take off that list

I do like Spiller and i agree he probably deserved an invite, imo Gerhart wins.
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Old 12-09-2009, 01:58 PM   #23
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Idk about that, alot of voters on espn who have decided to let us know who they voted for or who they would vote for and alot say Gerhart.

I also thought there was a limit to who could be invited to the Ceremony too, thats why i said who do you take off that list

I do like Spiller and i agree he probably deserved an invite, imo Gerhart wins.
I'm not really sure if they have a limit either, but I would not be opposed to expnding it if they do. I would love to see Gerhart win. He leads the nation in rushing TDs played great in all of their big games
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Old 12-09-2009, 03:20 PM   #24
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Just as an exercise in curiosity, would you guys say these are Heisman worthy college #'s?

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Conference Championship
3043 yards passing
71.1 completion percentage
27 Td's
6 INT's
154.05 QBR
174 rushes for 701 yards (4.0 average)
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Old 12-09-2009, 05:09 PM   #25
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Just as an exercise in curiosity, would you guys say these are Heisman worthy college #'s?

11-2
Conference Championship
3043 yards passing
71.1 completion percentage
27 Td's
6 INT's
154.05 QBR
174 rushes for 701 yards (4.0 average)
14 Rushing TD's
Dan LeFevour is awesome he does have good numbers and ive watch him play many times.

When you look at his numbers vs. Tim Tebow and Colt McCoy the only two QB finalist you see:

McCoy

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3,512 yards
27 TD's
12 INT's
147.5 rating

Rushing
348 yards (YPC 2.7)
3 TD's

Tebow

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2413 yards
19 TD's
5 INT's
155.6 Rating

Rushing
859 yards (YPC 4.2)
13 TD's

So comparing LeFevour to those 2 you can argue hes better then them, but unfortenatly because his conference championship is the MAC, he wont get looked at, but he could be better then the other two on sundays.

Your right rev some voters who just got the numbers and there were no names on the ballot would vote for LeFevour.
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THIS is what really floored me:

174 rushes for 701 yards (4.0 average)
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And he's a big boy....6'3" 240lbs...to move around that well.
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THIS is what really floored me:

174 rushes for 701 yards (4.0 average)
14 Rushing TD's

And he's a big boy....6'3" 240lbs...to move around that well.
Which is compared to Tebow who is probably known for running more then passing and on top of LeFevours running he can actually PASS!
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As of the last update, the experts at stiffarmtrophy.com still have Ingram projected as the winner. These folks at stiffarmtrophy have never missed a projection in the eight years they've been doing Heisman projections.

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As of the last update, the experts at stiffarmtrophy.com still have Ingram projected as the winner. These folks at stiffarmtrophy have never missed a projection in the eight years they've been doing Heisman projections.

http://stiffarmtrophy.com
I don't have a problem with that. If they win a national championship, he'll come out and be selected #2 or #3 overall by the Browns.
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Changing my vote....I'm pulling for Suh. A Defensive Tackle should win the Heisman this year!

Go Ndamukong Suh!

He won't win, but the more I check out his stats, and the more clips I watch, the more convinced I am that HE is the best college football player in 2009.

Check this out...
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...man/index.html
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