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Old 12-10-2009, 02:25 PM   #31
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Bottom line I think the BCS is nothing but BS anyways.
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Old 12-10-2009, 03:15 PM   #32
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Doesn't matter, they ALREADY BEAT THEM!

Thats like saying give the steelers another crack at the raiders, the raiders will get destroyed this time, revenge.
FSU beat Florida in their 1996 (I think???) game like 31-24. The teams were #1 and #2. They rematched in the NCG and Florida DESTROYED THEM by 30 points.

College ball is a lot different than the NFL. If this was college ball, the '95 Steelers were relegated to the Masengil Douche/Ladies Speedstick Feminine Hygiene Products Bowl the second they lost their 3rd game. But they lost 5 regular season games and still won it all.

Agree about the BCS which is, more or less, what this is really all about...
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FSU beat Florida in their 1996 (I think???) game like 31-24. The teams were #1 and #2. They rematched in the NCG and Florida DESTROYED THEM by 30 points.

College ball is a lot different than the NFL. If this was college ball, the '95 Steelers were relegated to the Masengil Douche/Ladies Speedstick Feminine Hygiene Products Bowl the second they lost their 3rd game. But they lost 5 regular season games and still won it all.

Agree about the BCS which is, more or less, what this is really all about...
But, that was unfair to FSU. They had to beat Florida twice to win the MNC, but Florida only had to beat FSU once. Without a playoff, it will always be a mythical national championship.
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But, that was unfair to FSU. They had to beat Florida twice to win the MNC, but Florida only had to beat FSU once. Without a playoff, it will always be a mythical national championship.
Truth be told, once Florida LOST that first match-up, that should have been curtains for them. Either Florida gets bumped and the next team in line plays, or they should have let Michigan and OSU (when THEY were #1 and #2 and the game came RIGHT down to the wire) replay for the NCG in 2007.

But, again, these are all compelling reasons to scrap this current system...
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The national title game is fine, no one really is complaining about that, it's the other games and who really cares who finishes 3rd? Maybe the people who finish 3rd but they are losers anyway already. As long as they get the NCG right I could not care less who plays for 3rd place.
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The national title game is fine, no one really is complaining about that, it's the other games and who really cares who finishes 3rd? Maybe the people who finish 3rd but they are losers anyway already. As long as they get the NCG right I could not care less who plays for 3rd place.
That's harsh...there are 120 D1 teams. The other 119 care MIGHTILY where they finish.
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I agree that the title game is the correct 2 teams. My whole problem is that everyone says TCU doesn't play anybody, or Boise doesn't play anybody. This would have been their chance to play someone and the BCS screws it up and matches them up together. Now, when TCU beats Boise, everyone will say they don't deserve to be ranked high because they only beat Boise.
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That's harsh...there are 120 D1 teams. The other 119 care MIGHTILY where they finish.
I acknowledged the losers that are fighting for 3rd and below may care, but nothing is ever going to get changed so that 5th place is the team deserving 5th place. That's just simple truth.
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I acknowledged the losers that are fighting for 3rd and below may care, but nothing is ever going to get changed so that 5th place is the team deserving 5th place. That's just simple truth.

The flaw in your argument is that EVERYONE cares about the NCG and NOBODY cares about the other games. The average college fan has his team he cheers for and cares deeply about it, even if that team is a perennial loser. The rankings have meaning for ALL those teams, even if they aren't necessarily completely agreed with. PLUS, those post-season rankings have a direct correlation with the following PRE-season rankings, which have HUGE importance.

Anyway, George Will chimed in...as usual, he's spot on. Notice how he concurs and agrees with many of our mutual sentiments, but his overriding point is that it's simply not Congress' place to intercede....

http://www.ohio.com/editorial/commentary/79196367.html

Congress deserves a major penalty if it fiddles with the BCS By George F. Will
Washington Post

Published on Monday, Dec 14, 2009
WASHINGTON: Two Saturdays ago, the nation was one tick of a Texas clock away from a cultural crisis. Nebraska led Texas 12-10 in the Big 12 Conference championship football game in Cowboys Stadium in Arlington. Texas had the ball on Nebraska's 29-yard line when time expired. Or so it seemed.





Texas was unbeaten entering the game and was third in the Bowl Championship Series ranking. But that Saturday, Alabama, which was ranked second, defeated top-ranked Florida. Because, however, 3,600 seconds had elapsed in Arlington, a defeated Texas would not be playing Alabama Jan. 7 in the BCS game to determine the national champion.



But Texas was resuscitated by football's excruciating mania for perfection. A game is 60 minutes of actual football sliced into slivers and scattered among almost that many minutes of officials standing around brooding about whether they called the last play correctly.



A replay official in Cowboys Stadium consulted videotape and decided that when the previous play ended, only 3,599 seconds of the game had elapsed. So one second was put back on the clock, Texas kicked a field goal and will play Alabama after all. And the nation will be spared the culture shock of seeing one of three other teams Texas Christian, Cincinnati or Boise State play Alabama.



These upstarts are undefeated, which is admirable, but they also are unglamorous, which is unforgivable: It might mean fewer television viewers for the beer and pickup truck commercials that will be broadcast during replay delays on the Jan. 7 telecast.



U.S. Rep. Joe Barton, who considers the BCS part of the axis of evil, is incandescent, and prepared. Last January, this 13-term Republican, whose district includes Cowboys Stadium and nearly nuzzles TCU in Fort Worth, introduced the College Football Playoff Act of 2009, which says: It shall be unlawful to ''promote, market, or advertise'' a postseason Division I football game as a national championship game unless it is ''the final game of a single elimination post-season playoff system'' for which all Division I teams are, at the beginning of the season, equally eligible.



Barton believes in limited government, but not so limited that it cannot right outrageous wrongs, such as the absence of a playoff. Bipartisanship lives: Barack Obama, who wants to fix everything health care, the climate, the pothole on your street, college football also wants a playoff.



''They keep trying to tinker with the current system,'' Barton says, ''and to me it's like and I don't mean this directly it's like communism. You can't fix it.'' He would toss the BCS into the ashcan of history where, arguably, it belongs.
''It is,'' he says, ''simply a cartel, much like OPEC.'' It uses an ''arbitrary computer system'' and ''complicated algorithms'' to determine who gets to play in the ''mythical championship game.'' He has a point.



January's game will be the 12th since the BCS system was created in 1998, and Alabama will be just the 12th different university represented in the decisive game. (Texas won it in 2006.) By giving the winners of six major football conferences automatic bids to one of the four most lucrative bowl games (Rose, Fiesta, Sugar, Orange) plus the national championship game, the BCS virtually guarantees that the rich get richer and get the television exposure that attracts blue-chip recruits.



Occasionally a declasse team crashes the BCS party: Undefeated Utah was allowed into the 2005 Fiesta Bowl. Then Utah lost its coach, Urban Meyer, to Florida, a school in the Southeastern Conference, whose winner always plays in a BCS bowl.



If congressional pressure leads to, say, a four-team playoff, half a dozen other teams will call that ''arbitrary'' and will pressure Congress to press for an eight-team playoff. Eventually the season will end when spring practice begins.
The BCS has effectively created a two-tier bowl system the big four bowls plus the national championship game, with their gigantic television contracts, and the 29 much less profitable bowls which is unfair. It also is none of Congress' business.



Barton's bill makes the usual perfunctory nod to the Constitution, finding that college teams travel in interstate commerce, and college games ''involve and affect'' such commerce and therefore the usual non sequitur it is fine for Congress to meddle.



Barton's bill, which should draw a 15-yard penalty for unnecessary roughness to the idea of limited government, demonstrates how Congress' power to regulate interstate commerce has become an end run around that idea.
Will is a Washington Post columnist. He can be e-mailed at georgewill@washpost.com.
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What importance do preseason rankings carry?
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