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Old 01-21-2010, 10:09 AM   #21
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Default Re: East-West Shrine Practice

i just wonder how much level of competition has to do with it. the best team they faced all year was boise and he only had 4 rec for 24 yds.
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looks like troup is making himself some money .... i was hoping he might be a 3rd rd option, but he may just shoot up into the 2nd.
That sucks...I had him as a 4th rounder...but as I has said before, he was my third favorite NT in this draft.
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That sucks...I had him as a 4th rounder...but as I has said before, he was my third favorite NT in this draft.
well from the very little coverage i could find of practice, it appears that he and calloway have been the dominant linemen thus far.
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OT Kyle Calloway, 6-6 322, University of Iowa #110 Overall: One of several offensive linemen who have been playing well at the practices, he has started at both left and right tackle, and could be effectively moved inside to guard. Projected 3rd Round

DT Torrel Troupe, 6-3 310,
Central Florida #106 Overall: Excellent NT prospect, with good brute strength who can effectively batter double-teams early in games. Has a tendency to wear down, still causes fits for defenders, and is too strong to be consistently singled up. Projected 3rd-4th Round

FS Kam Chancellor, 6-3 232, Virginia Tech #113 Overall: Very physical, big, hard hitter. Has been having decent practices, but is known for the well timed hit and is a solid tackler. Not the speed you like for the deep safety role, but impressive playing the middle and closing. Projected 3rd-4th Round

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OG Mitch Petrus, 6-3 315, Arkansas #124 Overall: Good guard prospect with exceptional pulling ability and quickness. Very reliant on turning defenders for the advantage, and can struggle with straight on bull rushes. Projected 4th Round

OG Brandon Carter, 6-6 326, Texas Tech #146 Overall: Big, physical mauler with a strong hand punch and nice, quick feet. Played at RG, and sustains his blocks well. Projected 4th-5th Round

OT Rodger Saffold, 6-5 312, Indiana #93 Overall: Has started at tackle, and has the quick feet and balance to make a stab at it in the NFL, but may be a better prospect inside. One of the best players so far in the Shrine practices. Projected 4th-5th Round

WR Freddie Barnes, 6-0 212, Bowling Green #149 Overall: Broke numerous records at Bowling Green, and has taken advantage of the erratic Shrine Game passers to show that he can catch anything that comes near him. Has practiced impressively, and is moving up the draft board. Projected 5th Round

SS Darryl Stuckey, 6-0 207, Kansas #162 Overall: Great safety player in the mold of David Bruton, someone who isn't afraid to get his hat in the mix, and who is tenacious about bringing down the ball carrier. Actively goes after the ball, developing quickly as a starter, with 2 FFs and 5 INTs his junior year. Projected 5th Round.

TE Andrew Quarless, 6-4 248, Penn State #167 Overall: Underrated blocker who has improved steadily in that area, and who makes an impact when given receiving opportunities. That growth is evident so far in the Shrine practices. Some character issues in 2007 and 2008. Projected 5th Round

RB Andre Anderson, 5-11 205, Tulane #203 Overall: Plays a patient style, has been effective running behind FBs and pulling guards, does a little of everything, including blocking, catching out of the backfield, and lining up as a WR. Projected 5th-6th Round

WR Alric Arnett, 6-2 183, West Virginia #206 Overall: He has been an effective target for WV, and all through the practices he has shown great route running, good hands, and solid speed. Will start climbing boards if it carries over into the game. Projected 6th Round

DT Nate Collins, 6-2 279, Virginia #205 Overall: An undersized DE prospect, would occupy more of a situational role in trying to split double teams. Plays with great leverage and strength, and has been impressive on the practice field. Not a perfect fit for Denver, but hard to ignore his production. Projected 6th Round

QB John Skelton, 6-5 244, Fordham #195 Overall: The good news is that Skelton has stood out at the Shrine practices. He clearly has the strongest arm of the group, and is more accurate, but not impressively so. Gametime will be a good time to watch him, since it usually takes the QBs and WRs a little while to get on the same page at these all-star games, but so far Skelton isn't hurting himself. Projected 6th Round

ILB Reggie Carter, 6-0 238, UCLA #197 Overall: A hard hitter and good tackler, he has been called a "tone-setter" by scouts at the practices. Reminds me very much of Wesley Woodyard, with the same nose for the ball, but more of a penchant for causing fumbles, and an even better tackler. Will play with emotion, and is tough. Projected 6th Round

OG Marshall Newhouse, 6-3 326, TCU #225 Overall: Big guard who pulls well and is adept at turning defenders. Playing well in the practices at G, and was moved around a little to see how he adjusted. Has the versatility to play outside on either side as well, making him extremely valuable. Projected 6th-7th Round

OT Chris Marinelli, 6-7 300, Stanford #226 Overall: Has flashed at practice but has not been consistent, and his draft stock may be dropping. Another versatile player who met with Denver scouts earlier in the year. His latest performance has been disheartening, but there is still gametime to make it right. Projected 6th-7th Round

OG Thomas Austin, 6-3 315, Clemson #311 Overall: Moved to center late in his career, he saw his draft stock take a hit, only to see it go up again based on his performance, and trek right back down again when he was moved back to left guard to finish up his senior season. While he was a center, he was often ranked at the top of the center lists, sometimes as high as #1, but his move back to LG has threatened him with obscurity. He played inconsistently there as of late, but has practiced well so far at the Shrine game. A good project with nice measurables and a good blend of versatility. Projected 7th Round.

WR Seyi Ajirotutu, 6-3 211, Fresno State #237 Overall: I first noted this big receiver at Boise State before he transferred to get more playing time. The result was great production and a surprising deep threat. I'll be watching his timed speed at the combine closely, but he has a deceptive speed going for the deep ball. He has turned heads at the Shrine practices,and Schottenheimer made a point of comparing him to SD's current big WR corp. Legedu Naanee, another BSU recruit, took a little time to develop in SD, but the results were worth waiting for. Seyi may be the same story. Projected 7th Round.

WR Emmanuel Sanders, 5-11 182, Southern Methodist # 323 Overall: Has had a few bad moments in practice, and has an unnerving habit of trying to test the lateral waters before getting upfield, he has nonetheless proven to be a solid all around WR, effectively blocking downfield and laying out for errant passes. Hasn't kept his routes as crisp as scouts would like to see, given that the DBs all pretty much know what is coming, but has gotten a few guys to "yo-yo" (think Eddie Royal double move on Hall). Could have a big game on Saturday, and is clearly the fastest WR on the field at the Shrine game. Projected College Free Agent.
College Free Agents of Interest

DT Ekom Udofia: He probably won't play much tomorrow, but he is a big kid (6-1 326) who might be able to transition to NT with time. He is recovering from a fractured ankle, so if he plays well, it should be telling.

QB Matt Nichols: While the Shrine QBs have generally been less than inspiring, Nichols has gotten more and more comfortable as each day passes. While the "top school" guys ahead of him struggle, this Eastern Washington University product has gotten more confident, and is showing that he has the better arm, better size and better accuracy. He is worth watching when he gets his chance to come into the game.

SS Klint Kubiak: Not a particularly talented prospect, I just thought the coloradoans and Kubes fans would want to here what he is up to. This is essentially a last gasp for him, and if he plays well, he could still earn a combine invite, despite a bad luck history with injuries. What I found interesting was how excited he was when he learned he got the invite... His dad must be helping him sort out what matters from what doesn't, and if Kubes thinks that the Shrine game matters, than it might speak a bit to where pros rank it. Interesting to think about...

TE Riar Geer: A Colorado Buff this time, Greer has been impressing in practice with his solid blocking. He is also a decent receiver, and would make a solid reserve prospect. Where he seems to have impressed the most is in effectively holding up and anchoring against good, heavy outside pass rushers, no small feat. If he keeps it up he may just find his way into the draft.
Sleeping Beauty

DT Martin Tevaseu, 6-1 329, UNLV #461 Overall: This kid really seems like he might have the special something. He managed to come down from 420 pounds and earn a scholarship, playing at 335 for UNLV. His Dline coach Andre Patterson (used to be the Broncos Dline coach) realized that the kid could do something special, and convinced him to train to be a NT (he was originally a penetrating havoc-wreaker). Martin had taken on double teams all the time, so the transition was a simple one for him. Fast forward to the shrine practices, and he is playing his heart out, pushing top quality olinemen back, and improving daily on his hand technique. The result? Marty Schottenheimer took the time to meet up with Tevaseu in the parking lot after a long day:
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well from the very little coverage i could find of practice, it appears that he and calloway have been the dominant linemen thus far.
NT Torrel Troupe, OT Kyle Calloway, OT Rodger Saffold, and QB John Skelton, are the 4 that intrique me the most at this point.
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Game is starting...on ESPN2!!!!
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well....the qb's in this game are garbage...
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FS Kam Chancellor is looking pretty good...
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Top performer: Rodger Saffold, OT, Indiana

Saffold was not only the most agile pass blocker all week, he also showcased impressive bend, footwork and overall base strength when asked to anchor on contact. He looked natural sliding his feet, mirroring in space and using his quick hands to gain inside leverage and keep his side of the pocket clean. Plus, he displayed above-average range when asked to pull on the outside and exhibited some initial pop as an in-line run blocker. Saffold has definitely elevated his stock in my eyes and grades out as someone who has the ability to develop into a starting-caliber tackle.

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Emmanuel Sanders, SMU

Emmanuel SandersAPSMU WR Emmanuel Sanders

Sanders played at another speed all week, consistently and quickly eating up the cushion off the line, creating separation out of his breaks and tacking passes vertically down the field. Plus, he does a much better job adjusting to the football than given credit for and, although he lacks size, he has some fight to him when asked to block in the run game. He looks like a guy who can create plays down the field from the slot in an NFL offense.

David Reed, Utah

There isn’t much flash to his overall game, but Reed is a coordinated wideout who does a nice job maintaining his balance and accelerating initially out of his breaks. He showcased an ability all week to create separation for himself in one-on-one situations and possesses a good combination of quickness and savvy in the pass game. You can definitely see a little of the Giants’ Steve Smith in his game.

Freddie Barnes, Bowling Green

Is Barnes someone who will consistently be beat man coverage on the outside and escape press vs. physical NFL corners? No, but he’s a well-built kid with good body control who does a great job gaining initial separation and plucking the football. He’s not a guy who will ever be a star in the league, but if you need a wideout who can come into a game as a sub-package receiver and move the sticks from the slot, Barnes is your man.

Didn’t meet the mark

OT Chris Marinelli, Stanford

Chris MarinelliAPStanford OT Chris Marinelli

After watching Marinelli in practice, I simply didn’t see type of initial burst from him off the edge to make me think he has the ability to consistently set vs. NFL-caliber rushers. He struggles to keep his base down on contact, can be overwhelmed at the point and isn’t an efficient puncher. Overall, Marinelli was beaten with speed, power and quickness this week and looks like a guy who will end up having a tough time making an NFL roster as a tackle.

OG Thomas Austin, Clemson

One common trait in Austin that kept showing up in my notes this week was “no base” or “lacks anchor strength.” Austin was routinely exposed vs. the bull-rush and doesn’t possess the lower body strength to consistently hold the point of attack. And it isn’t even that he plays overly high or struggles to bend. He exhibits a pretty good pad level on contact, but he lacks ideal strength through his base.

Time to re-evaluate

If an offensive guard at next week’s Senior Bowl gets hurt, I would really like to see Texas Tech’s Brandon Carter get thrown into the mix in Mobile, Ala. Carter played much better than I anticipated this week, showing good anchor strength inside with an ability to engulf opposing linemen on contact. He still doesn’t showcase much explosion off the snap in the run game and has tendency to roll his way out of his stance, but when he’s able to get his hands on defenders initially off the snap, something he wasn’t asked to do often in the Texas Tech offense, he can be very effective.

Good work by VT’s Chancellor

Thinking back to the 2007 Senior Bowl, I can remember former Virginia Tech safety Aaron Rouse being applauded time and again for his ability to press and reroute receivers off the line, especially in goal-line situations. Fast forward to this week at the East-West Shrine Game, where another former Virginia Tech safety, Kam Chancellor, also did an impressive job using his long, physical frame to bump receivers/tight ends and quickly find the football. Chancellor really did a number on Freddie Barnes on one occasion, absolutely manhandling him off the line, then followed that up with another physical bump on tight end Nate Byham before using his length and size to knock away the ball. My point: There’s no doubt Chancellor has the size, straight-line speed and physicality to play at the next level. But the team that drafts him needs to allow him to play to his strengths – near the line of scrimmage where he can play with his hands -- and not ask him to consistently redirect vs. NFL receivers in space. Like Rouse, he simply won’t be able to hold up.
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Top performer: Rodger Saffold, OT, Indiana

Saffold was not only the most agile pass blocker all week, he also showcased impressive bend, footwork and overall base strength when asked to anchor on contact. He looked natural sliding his feet, mirroring in space and using his quick hands to gain inside leverage and keep his side of the pocket clean. Plus, he displayed above-average range when asked to pull on the outside and exhibited some initial pop as an in-line run blocker. Saffold has definitely elevated his stock in my eyes and grades out as someone who has the ability to develop into a starting-caliber tackle.

Top wideouts

Emmanuel Sanders, SMU

Emmanuel SandersAPSMU WR Emmanuel Sanders

Sanders played at another speed all week, consistently and quickly eating up the cushion off the line, creating separation out of his breaks and tacking passes vertically down the field. Plus, he does a much better job adjusting to the football than given credit for and, although he lacks size, he has some fight to him when asked to block in the run game. He looks like a guy who can create plays down the field from the slot in an NFL offense.

David Reed, Utah

There isn’t much flash to his overall game, but Reed is a coordinated wideout who does a nice job maintaining his balance and accelerating initially out of his breaks. He showcased an ability all week to create separation for himself in one-on-one situations and possesses a good combination of quickness and savvy in the pass game. You can definitely see a little of the Giants’ Steve Smith in his game.

Freddie Barnes, Bowling Green

Is Barnes someone who will consistently be beat man coverage on the outside and escape press vs. physical NFL corners? No, but he’s a well-built kid with good body control who does a great job gaining initial separation and plucking the football. He’s not a guy who will ever be a star in the league, but if you need a wideout who can come into a game as a sub-package receiver and move the sticks from the slot, Barnes is your man.

Didn’t meet the mark

OT Chris Marinelli, Stanford

Chris MarinelliAPStanford OT Chris Marinelli

After watching Marinelli in practice, I simply didn’t see type of initial burst from him off the edge to make me think he has the ability to consistently set vs. NFL-caliber rushers. He struggles to keep his base down on contact, can be overwhelmed at the point and isn’t an efficient puncher. Overall, Marinelli was beaten with speed, power and quickness this week and looks like a guy who will end up having a tough time making an NFL roster as a tackle.

OG Thomas Austin, Clemson

One common trait in Austin that kept showing up in my notes this week was “no base” or “lacks anchor strength.” Austin was routinely exposed vs. the bull-rush and doesn’t possess the lower body strength to consistently hold the point of attack. And it isn’t even that he plays overly high or struggles to bend. He exhibits a pretty good pad level on contact, but he lacks ideal strength through his base.

Time to re-evaluate

If an offensive guard at next week’s Senior Bowl gets hurt, I would really like to see Texas Tech’s Brandon Carter get thrown into the mix in Mobile, Ala. Carter played much better than I anticipated this week, showing good anchor strength inside with an ability to engulf opposing linemen on contact. He still doesn’t showcase much explosion off the snap in the run game and has tendency to roll his way out of his stance, but when he’s able to get his hands on defenders initially off the snap, something he wasn’t asked to do often in the Texas Tech offense, he can be very effective.

Good work by VT’s Chancellor

Thinking back to the 2007 Senior Bowl, I can remember former Virginia Tech safety Aaron Rouse being applauded time and again for his ability to press and reroute receivers off the line, especially in goal-line situations. Fast forward to this week at the East-West Shrine Game, where another former Virginia Tech safety, Kam Chancellor, also did an impressive job using his long, physical frame to bump receivers/tight ends and quickly find the football. Chancellor really did a number on Freddie Barnes on one occasion, absolutely manhandling him off the line, then followed that up with another physical bump on tight end Nate Byham before using his length and size to knock away the ball. My point: There’s no doubt Chancellor has the size, straight-line speed and physicality to play at the next level. But the team that drafts him needs to allow him to play to his strengths – near the line of scrimmage where he can play with his hands -- and not ask him to consistently redirect vs. NFL receivers in space. Like Rouse, he simply won’t be able to hold up.

I agree w/ that assesment of Chancellor....@ the next level its a whole different ball game......
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