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Old 02-01-2010, 04:51 PM   #11
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Default Re: Pitt fans, how do you feel about possibly joining the Big Ten?

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Big Ten Basketball has been pretty damn good over the past couple of years. You got Michigan St., Ohio St., Purdue, Illinois Wisconsin all in like this gridlock to challenge for the Big Ten title. All but Purdue have made the NCAA final four within the last decade.

Pitt wouldn't dominate IMO, they'd just be another dog in the fight for the league title.
Today, Pitt would win that conference 4 out of 5 years. I don't doubt it. They are down this year and are still playing great in the Big East. however jumping to the 10 would hurt their long term recruiting of the kids out of Brooklyn and the rest of NYC. That's key to their recruiting right now, so in about 6 years, when those kids stopped coming to Pitt then I agree, they would just be another dog in the fight.

But as of right now, the only team in the Big 10 in basketball that I really respect is Michigan State because they are consistantly very good. Illinois is up and down, OSU has a good year every 6 years or so, Purdue, yeah ok, one good year, Indiana hasn't done anything worth a dang since Bobby left, Michigan, have they really been a threat lately? Wisky is pretty good, I like them too, Wisky and Mich State and Pitt would dominate that conference until Pitt starting losing its recruits to Cuse.
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Old 02-01-2010, 05:46 PM   #12
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Default Re: Pitt fans, how do you feel about possibly joining the Big Ten?

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Big Ten Basketball has been pretty damn good over the past couple of years. You got Michigan St., Ohio St., Purdue, Illinois Wisconsin all in like this gridlock to challenge for the Big Ten title. All but Purdue have made the NCAA final four within the last decade.

Pitt wouldn't dominate IMO, they'd just be another dog in the fight for the league title.
Big ten is comeptitive but look at the Big East vs. Big Ten as far as last year and so far this year...

THIS YEAR

Teams in the top 10

Big East 4
Big Ten 2

Overall Teams in the Top 25

Big East 5
Big Ten 4

Last year big east got THREE #1 seeds in Pitt, Louisville and UConn and 2 of the final four teams along with 4 of the elite 8 teams were Big East.

The ONLY team that could compete in last years and this years big east is Michigan State....im just saying stats dont lie and those are pretty convincing numbers showing how good Big East basketball is

Im not taking anything away from the Big 10 who have GREATLY improved over the last few years but there are more teams contending for the big east championship every year then in the Big 10

Put Pitt in the Big 10 next year, they are easily in the top 3 no question IMO.
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Old 02-01-2010, 05:50 PM   #13
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Today, Pitt would win that conference 4 out of 5 years. I don't doubt it. They are down this year and are still playing great in the Big East. however jumping to the 10 would hurt their long term recruiting of the kids out of Brooklyn and the rest of NYC. That's key to their recruiting right now, so in about 6 years, when those kids stopped coming to Pitt then I agree, they would just be another dog in the fight.

But as of right now, the only team in the Big 10 in basketball that I really respect is Michigan State because they are consistantly very good. Illinois is up and down, OSU has a good year every 6 years or so, Purdue, yeah ok, one good year, Indiana hasn't done anything worth a dang since Bobby left, Michigan, have they really been a threat lately? Wisky is pretty good, I like them too, Wisky and Mich State and Pitt would dominate that conference until Pitt starting losing its recruits to Cuse.
I dont understand why that would hurt their New York kids recruiting??? Pitt is like the ultimate goal for most New York City kids thats just how its been and i realize you must know that, however changing to the Big 10 isnt changing their LOCATION....they are still in Pittsburgh man....

So your saying because of conferance those players wont want to play on the same team? the only differance would be their schedule and i see that becoming easier going to the big 10.... , recruiting is about the coaches and for some reason they have alway appealed to top NYC athletes, i dont think that changes because of a change of conferance.

Also Pitts top recruit from next year is from Cleveland.

And currently on the team 2 players are from NY ( woodall being from brooklynn and taylor not huge contributers) and one from NJ in Gibbs.....thats it.
So as far as "losing" recruits they are fine so far without them......and i dont think they lose them because of changing conferance in the long run as for possible NYC kids.
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Default Re: Pitt fans, how do you feel about possibly joining the Big Ten?

Pitt basketball joining the Big Ten would not hurt them a bit, and would ultimately strengthen the conference overall.
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Default Re: Pitt fans, how do you feel about possibly joining the Big Ten?

I honestly don't think that Pitt would join the Big 10.

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Pitt is a dominant football program in the Big East. When Miami and VT left for the ACC, that opened the door up for Pitt and WV to become the two dominant teams in the conference. Coming to the Big 10, they would have to compete with Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin, Iowa, Michigan State, and Michigan (when they eventually become a force again, when the dump Rich Rodriguez). They would be no better than third or fourth most seasons. Not to mention the Backyard Brawl against WV would become less important in the grand scheme of things as an OOC game every season, if it gets kept.

They would lose all that basketball recruiting in the NYC area. Those NYC kids love getting to come back and play in MSG. With the NBA rule being that kids only have to play one season of college ball to become draft eligible, those NYC recruits that might have stuck around for two or even three seasons could jump to the NBA sooner because they don't want to play Big 10 basketball. They would lose a lot of those recruits to Syracuse and UConn. They wouldn't lose every one, but most of them would go to Big East schools.

Also, the Big East is known as a basketball conference now. A lot of kids want to play in the Big East or the ACC, the two conferences known as basketball conferences. Pitt gets to play on an annual basis: UConn, Syracuse, Georgetown, Villanova, Louisville.

It really doesn't make sense for Pitt to leave the Big East since they are a big player in both major sports in that conference.
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Default Re: Pitt fans, how do you feel about possibly joining the Big Ten?

I definitely disagree....if Pitt is asked, they'll lietrally JUMP at the offer. The Big Ten is >>> Big East as far as status, overall $$$, legacy and prestige.
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I definitely disagree....if Pitt is asked, they'll lietrally JUMP at the offer. The Big Ten is >>> Big East as far as status, overall $$$, legacy and prestige.
All the reports ive heard say Pitt isnt that excited about moving

At least Jamie Dixon doesnt think its a good choice to do so..
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Default Re: Pitt fans, how do you feel about possibly joining the Big Ten?

Each school in the Big 10 gets 12mil a year for tv contracts in football. U of Texas gets 3 mil. You think Pitt wouldn't jump at that? Please.
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Each school in the Big 10 gets 12mil a year for tv contracts in football. U of Texas gets 3 mil. You think Pitt wouldn't jump at that? Please.
Its not all about football, changing could lose them money possibly in other sports....
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Its not all about football, changing could lose them money possibly in other sports....
There are typically 2 sports that generate money for athletic departments. Men's football and men's basketball. Most every school loses money in other sports. A potential 10 mil influx of cash is nothing to balk at. I mean how much more money could womens field hockey lose in the big 10 vs the big east?
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