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Old 12-07-2010, 12:32 PM   #21
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Default Re: Whitlock Puts Ben in His Top Three

Surprised to see so many people putting Brady over Manning. Not saying it's not true, it probably is, but it's almost unfair considering the differences in the teams. Manning has had a handful of good recievers over the years, but Brady has always been surrounded by talent. Of course Manning's struggles can be placed on a bad O line and running game. Look how bad our line makes Ben look. Manning has single handedly won a super bowl and took them to another, with consistent playoff appearances. So has Brady, but with a superior coach and loads of talent. This will always be what makes this question almost impossible to answer 100%.

I would say its:
#1. Brady
#2. Manning
#3. Roethlisberger

On any given day, any of those 3 QB's can be the best though, but for an era that's how they would stack up. I didn't make a top 5 because I don't see anybody who would be destinctively a number 4 or 5.
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Old 12-07-2010, 12:35 PM   #22
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Tier 1
1. Brady
2. Brees
3. Manning

Tier 2
4. Ben
5. Vick -if he can keep it up
6. Rogers -has trouble closing sometimes
7. Rivers - has trouble closing sometimes

Tier 3

8. Matty Ice
9. Tony Romo
10. Eli Manning
11. Joe Flacco

Tier 4
12. Josh Freeman
13. Sam Bradford

Tier 5
14. Jay Cutler
15. Mark Sanchez
Looking at this, WHY does everyone keep putting Peyton in the top 3 even though he chokes in the playoffs? 1-1 in SBs and only what, 2-5 in AFC championship games? Until this tear he has been loaded with WRs and TEs to throw to and can't get it done but one time...
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Old 12-07-2010, 12:40 PM   #23
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Surprised to see so many people putting Brady over Manning. Not saying it's not true, it probably is, but it's almost unfair considering the differences in the teams. Manning has had a handful of good recievers over the years, but Brady has always been surrounded by talent. Of course Manning's struggles can be placed on a bad O line and running game. Look how bad our line makes Ben look. Manning has single handedly won a super bowl and took them to another, with consistent playoff appearances. So has Brady, but with a superior coach and loads of talent. This will always be what makes this question almost impossible to answer 100%.

I would say its:
#1. Brady
#2. Manning
#3. Roethlisberger

On any given day, any of those 3 QB's can be the best though, but for an era that's how they would stack up. I didn't make a top 5 because I don't see anybody who would be destinctively a number 4 or 5.
PLEASE tell me you are kidding? Manning had 2 potential HOF WRs in Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne!! PLUS a potential HOF (for his receiving) TE in Dallas Clark!!! RB Edgerin(sp) James was not mediocre, and if it were not for injuries his starting RB this year is not slouch either!!! Other that the past 3 years with Randy Moss and Welker, who has Brady had that was so great?
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Old 12-07-2010, 09:17 PM   #24
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Default Re: Whitlock Puts Ben in His Top Three

I am also surprised at all the love brady is getting on here. While I do believe that he is a good qb, I believe that he like montana is the product of a system that is tailor made to make a qb look good. He makes his living for the most part by throwing slants and screen passes and getting crazy yac. He probably throws more passes that go 10 or less yards from the los { with that being the first read} than any qb in the league. When you are throwing those types of passes your ints are likely to be low.
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I am also surprised at all the love brady is getting on here. While I do believe that he is a good qb, I believe that he like montana is the product of a system that is tailor made to make a qb look good. He makes his living for the most part by throwing slants and screen passes and getting crazy yac.


Brady is good, but through no-fault of his-own, his numbers are a reflection of the system & era in-which he plays ~ if this stuff was done before the 1980's, his receivers wouldn't be running-free through the secondary like deer at a wild-life preserve:
on 3rd & 2, nobody lined-up in the empty-backfield / spread formation, and offensive linemen weren't allowed to hol... err... I mean... open their hands & grab jerseys while pass-blocking

Brady, Manning & Montana would've survived, prospered & won in the earlier era, but not to the extend they have
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Brady is clutch at getting his team into field goal range and winning each superbowl by 3 and off vinatieri's foot.
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