I think the NFL Vetoed Ben in Top 10 Steelers

[plenewken]

Originally Posted by figg

Every other post of your's is a negative about Roethlisberger. The D did give up the lead in the game and the O-line did hold in the endzone for a saftey! Give credit were it is due hater. BTW Warner did play a great SB with the help of a few great plays by Fitz and Boldin! When your blowing Warner remember he wasnt throwing to himself!

Hahaha! At the very least, try to be consistent in your reasoning. If Warner needed the help of Fitzgerald and Boldin (you forgot Breaston by the way), the same applied to Ben with Holmes, Ward and Miller.
Am I negative about Ben? No more and no less than with any other Steeler. When he plays well, I admit it, when he sucks I admit it, and when he acts like a moron off the field, I don't put the blame on others.
Maybe I expect more from a guy making over $100M than you?

[fer522]

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Oh, okay. Misunderstood. I thought you meant that he's not "a" top Steelers QB yet. I would definitely agree that he's not "the" top Steelers QB, though he could potentially surpass Terry if he keeps at it. That remains to be seen, however,

I do believe wholeheartedly though that Bradshaw benefited from being on a better overall team, whereas the current Steelers (and the Steelers that Ben won championships won with in 05 and 08) while, very good, do not come close to the the level of talent that was on the 70's team. Ben does have a little less to work with than Bradshaw, and his team does have to play within the confines of bullsh** NFL rules that were implemented in recent years.

Ummm.... it isn't close to the level of talent that the 70's team competed against, either.

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[USWSteel]

Originally Posted by lionslicer

A lot of athletes come into training camp out of shape... training camp is to get them in shape, but the great ones get better every offseason. Rice, Payton, Sanders, all worked out constantly in the off season... But then again these are skill positioins, I don't remember Elway ever being in the best shape, but I don't recall him or Ben ever comming out of the game for a snap or 2 because they were out of breathe after running around in the backfield for like 10 seconds, then running.

I guess the QB position isn't a skill position ? So your saying. My point is the one poster said Ben's hard working. Nothing could be further from reality. For years it has been reported that he has been the last one on the practice field and the first one off.

[plenewken]

Originally Posted by USWSteel

I guess the QB position isn't a skill position ? So your saying. My point is the one poster said Ben's hard working. Nothing could be further from reality. For years it has been reported that he has been the last one on the practice field and the first one off.

Nah, you're just a Ben hater .............. like me.

[figg]

Originally Posted by plenewken

Hahaha! At the very least, try to be consistent in your reasoning. If Warner needed the help of Fitzgerald and Boldin (you forgot Breaston by the way), the same applied to Ben with Holmes, Ward and Miller.
Am I negative about Ben? No more and no less than with any other Steeler. When he plays well, I admit it, when he sucks I admit it, and when he acts like a moron off the field, I don't put the blame on others.
Maybe I expect more from a guy making over $100M than you?

You're cumming in your pants talking about Warner and at the same time crediting the the Steelers D And you're talking about consistancy?

[lionslicer]

Originally Posted by USWSteel

I guess the QB position isn't a skill position ? So your saying. My point is the one poster said Ben's hard working. Nothing could be further from reality. For years it has been reported that he has been the last one on the practice field and the first one off.

People ways consider recievers and running backs skill positions :P

I'm not going to disagree that Ben probably never works out in the weight room or on the track, but he's always watched a lot of film. Though a couple years he had too big of an ego for himself to handle and didn't work as hard then, but he worked hard his first could years and this past year... only because he was suspended but still lol.

Why are we argueing how hard of a worker he is anyways, he's winning games and not throwing interceptions, so he must be doing something right.

[plenewken]

Originally Posted by figg

You're cumming in your pants talking about Warner and at the same time crediting the the Steelers D And you're talking about consistancy?

Quit digging your hole, dude, really.

[figg]

Originally Posted by plenewken

Quit digging your hole, dude, really.

dude, really. lol

[rich4eagle]

Originally Posted by USWSteel

Just curious why you would say Ben is hard working ? I cant remember one off season where he ever came to camp in shape ? This year Ben came to camp with more chins than a Chinese phone book !

Ben just does what he does plays hard gets hammered comes back gets hammered and OH YEAH WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS

and plays best in crunch time over and over

disregarding that is well the substance of fools

[plenewken]

Originally Posted by rich4eagle

Ben ................... and plays best in crunch time over and over .................

True, but without our D, there wouldn't be a crunch time cause we'd be too far behind.
I wish him and the offense could be more efficient during the first 57mn. ............. I'm just sayin'

Happy New Year to all Steelers fans.