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Old 01-23-2011, 12:03 PM   #11
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Default Re: Holmes changed but still doesn't get it

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Good read, I wasn't even aware of some of this stuff.. he fathered 3 children by age 22? Easy there, Cromartie. Didn't know he threw wild parties either.
I didn't know about the wild party part but I am not surprised. I wonder if Tone's wild parties that had an influence on Ben's behavior. I'm sure the Steelers knew about the parties. Perhaps they wanted to remove a bad example from the locker room to help Ben straighten his life out.

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Old 01-23-2011, 12:35 PM   #12
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I didn't know about the wild party part but I am not surprised. I wonder if Tone's wild parties that had an influence on Ben's behavior. I'm sure the Steelers knew about the parties. Perhaps they wanted to remove a bad example from the locker room to help Ben straighten his life out.
Ben was a jerk way before Tone came to Pittsburgh. I knew just by his interviews that he was a jerk. And as it turned out, the city of Pittsburgh knew as well.

If Big Ben makes one more mistake, he will be gone too, super bowl champs or not.
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