Time to talk about the real Big Ben.

[SH-Rock]

Originally Posted by Steelerz4Life

I kind of missed those, I was born in 1993.


SH Rock

Ben threw 1 TD pass and 1 INT in 43. Warner, completely outperformed Ben.

True, but Stats are for losers. You keep looking at stats, Ben will keep getting wins. If Ben led us to win the Super Bowl, there will be no question who was the better big game and 4th quarter, Quarterback.

[vasteeler]

nice first post........

[Steelerz4Life]

Originally Posted by CargoJon

Oh, and name me another QB in the league that's been to 3 Super Bowls in the last 6 years....let alone won 2 in the last 6 years.

Brady - nope. Hasn't won one since before we won XL.
Manning - nope. The WhoDats made him their bitch
Rogers - nope.
Rivers - that cat can't win in the playoffs to save his ass.

Care to trade Ben over the last 6 years for any of these fine gents? Who would you prefer?

I would take Brady over Ben in a heartbeat. I hate the Patriots, but that hate will not blind me in that he is a truly great QB.

Rogers, well, yet another QB who outperformed Ben. Ben is what he is, a QB that will always need to have the team carry him. Rogers is only going to get better. So I would take Rogers over Ben as well.

Manning or Ben, Manning is overrated just like Ben, I'll flip a coin.

Rivers, Ok, you presented a QB I would take Ben over.

[Steelerz4Life]

Originally Posted by SH-Rock

True, but Stats are for losers. You keep looking at stats, Ben will keep getting wins. If Ben led us to win the Super Bowl, there will be no question who was the better big game and 4th quarter, Quarterback.

Do you see the word I bolded? It is "if". One of my English teachers said "if" is the biggest two letter word in the English language.

[SCMom]

Manning overrated. That's rich.

[SH-Rock]

Originally Posted by Steelerz4Life

Do you see the word I bolded? It is "if". One of my English teachers said "if" is the biggest two letter word in the English language.

Ok then lets look at reality
2/3 Super Bowl wins.
Brady 3/4
Manning 1/2
Rivers 0

I'm not saying any of those are bad, but you're not giving Ben enough credit.

[BigRick]

Originally Posted by Steelerz4Life

I would take Brady over Ben in a heartbeat. I hate the Patriots, but that hate will not blind me in that he is a truly great QB.

Rogers, well, yet another QB who outperformed Ben. Ben is what he is, a QB that will always need to have the team carry him. Rogers is only going to get better. So I would take Rogers over Ben as well.

Manning or Ben, Manning is overrated just like Ben, I'll flip a coin.

Rivers, Ok, you presented a QB I would take Ben over.

Just as I figured you never saw Bradshaw play. Sure he was on a team that won 4 Super Bowls and is in the Hall of Fame, but believe me he wasn't that great at times either.
Your mama must have dropped you on your head at an early age.

[Steelerz4Life]

Originally Posted by SH-Rock

Ok then lets look at reality
2/3 Super Bowl wins.
Brady 3/4
Manning 1/2
Rivers 0

I'm not saying any of those are bad, but you're not giving Ben enough credit.

Again, I hate the Patriots, but Big Ben is not even worthy of being mentioned in the same sentence as Tom Brady. Like it or not, Brady is one of the all time greats, as where Ben is an above average QB at best who was carried to 2 Super Bowls. Like it or not, the Patriots won BECAUSE of Brady. Like it or not, the Steelers won 2 of their Super Bowl IN SPITE of Ben, not BECAUSE of Ben. It is just that simple.

[BigRick]

Originally Posted by Steelerz4Life

Again, I hate the Patriots, but Big Ben is not even worthy of being mentioned in the same sentence as Tom Brady. Like it or not, Brady is one of the all time greats, as where Ben is an above average QB at best who was carried to 2 Super Bowls. Like it or not, the Patriots won BECAUSE of Brady. Like it or not, the Steelers won 2 of their Super Bowl IN SPITE of Ben, not BECAUSE of Ben. It is just that simple.

Yeah I guess Santonio threw the ball to himself, so he could make the game winning catch!

[Steelerz4Life]

Originally Posted by BigRick

Yeah I guess Santonio threw the ball to himself, so he could make the game winning catch!

Even a blind chicken sometimes finds a kernel of corn.

Super Bowl 40, because Ben could not figure out how to throw a TD pass, they had to have Randle El do it for him. Randle El 1 TD pass 0 INTs, Ben 0 TD passes 2 INTS.