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Old 05-02-2011, 11:03 PM   #11
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Default Re: Ed: Now We Wait

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Because he had been bit**ing aboiut his contract throughout 2006 (after he got a ring in 2005) and there was a concern it would disrupt Tomlin's first season as HC

Although no one on the Steelers would say so, the threat by Porter to hold out last summer played a factor in his release. Team officials did not want to burden new head coach Mike Tomlin with that kind of threat to his authority. Even though Porter was scheduled to make $5 million in the final year of his deal, he was unhappy with his contract and there was a chance he might boycott some of the minicamps and then training camp had he remained with the team.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07061/766304-66.stm

So Porter was let go and imediately signed a fat deal with Miami

He got a ton more money than the $5 million he was to earn with the Steelers this season. Porter agreed to a five-year, $32 million contract with the Dolphins that will pay him a reported $12 million signing bonus and another $8 million in guaranteed money. His signing bonus is $3 million more than the Steelers have paid a player

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07066/767408-66.stm

And once Porter was let go Faneca became the disgruntled vet who wanted a better deal from the Steelers and acted out when it did not happen as he claimed deserving vets like Porter and himself were getting screwed by Steelers management

Guard Alan Faneca said today he is attending the required Steelers minicamp only because the team is making him and predicted this will be his last season with the Steelers.

Faneca, who has played in the past six Pro Bowls, said he will depart Pittsburgh Sunday night when practices end and won't return until training camp.

Faneca also said he has asked the Steelers to trade him but that he does not think that will happen. He said they have shown by their lack of progress in contract talks that they no longer want him beyond the 2007 season.

"This will be my last year as a Pittsburgh Steeler," Faneca declared....

"You go somewhere, you've been here for nine years; to do what I've done to help this team out. The things I've done for this team ... and the offer I get is pretty much a non-offer. What am I to think? What are the guys in this room to think? If they can do it to me and everybody else and let Joey [Porter] go and do things like that, what does that say to the rest of the guys?"


http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07131/785306-66.stm

Moral of the story - most players will go to whomever is paying the most, especially if it is their last big payday - Ike Taylor may be no different from Faneca and Porter
Thanks for the parable. Really.

I thought the same thing about Ike up until the draft reports stating everyone involved was confident that he'll be a Steeler. We'll see. Anyways, I should have added that Ike Taylor helped Pittsburgh out with reconstructing his contract so while money plays into this, it's a very different situation than what you're suggesting with Faneca and Porter. Or not. But then again I guess, as we've learned, everything comes back to mantra of "the NFL is still business". Money. Anyways, I guess I'm just talking semantics (as far as leaving for benjamins/cut) here (and in my previous post[s]). So, I'll just shut the f.uck up.
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Old 05-03-2011, 01:28 AM   #12
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The difference between Faneca/Porter and Taylor is that the other guys were considered to be the best in the game. Taylor doesn't get the respect/attention those guys got. For that reason, I don't see anyone giving Ike the big dollars (even though I think he is as good as they get).
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Old 05-03-2011, 01:51 PM   #13
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Because he had been bit**ing aboiut his contract throughout 2006 (after he got a ring in 2005) and there was a concern it would disrupt Tomlin's first season as HC

Although no one on the Steelers would say so, the threat by Porter to hold out last summer played a factor in his release. Team officials did not want to burden new head coach Mike Tomlin with that kind of threat to his authority. Even though Porter was scheduled to make $5 million in the final year of his deal, he was unhappy with his contract and there was a chance he might boycott some of the minicamps and then training camp had he remained with the team.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07061/766304-66.stm

So Porter was let go and imediately signed a fat deal with Miami

He got a ton more money than the $5 million he was to earn with the Steelers this season. Porter agreed to a five-year, $32 million contract with the Dolphins that will pay him a reported $12 million signing bonus and another $8 million in guaranteed money. His signing bonus is $3 million more than the Steelers have paid a player

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07066/767408-66.stm

And once Porter was let go Faneca became the disgruntled vet who wanted a better deal from the Steelers and acted out when it did not happen as he claimed deserving vets like Porter and himself were getting screwed by Steelers management

Guard Alan Faneca said today he is attending the required Steelers minicamp only because the team is making him and predicted this will be his last season with the Steelers.

Faneca, who has played in the past six Pro Bowls, said he will depart Pittsburgh Sunday night when practices end and won't return until training camp.

Faneca also said he has asked the Steelers to trade him but that he does not think that will happen. He said they have shown by their lack of progress in contract talks that they no longer want him beyond the 2007 season.

"This will be my last year as a Pittsburgh Steeler," Faneca declared....

"You go somewhere, you've been here for nine years; to do what I've done to help this team out. The things I've done for this team ... and the offer I get is pretty much a non-offer. What am I to think? What are the guys in this room to think? If they can do it to me and everybody else and let Joey [Porter] go and do things like that, what does that say to the rest of the guys?"


http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07131/785306-66.stm

Moral of the story - most players will go to whomever is paying the most, especially if it is their last big payday - Ike Taylor may be no different from Faneca and Porter
Your right most players will go for the money. Usually once they leave they are never to be heard from again. It's amazing to me how quickly most of these guys fall off the face of the earth once they leave the Steelers. Faneca had 1 OK year, then cut by the Jets. Porter, Kirkland, Gildon, lots of others suffered the same fate.
I always stick with the Steelers when they make these decisions. It will not surprise me if James Harrison is in his last season with the Steelers. Would seem stupid to part with someone of his ability. But, if they cut him before 2012, they either think Worilds is ready, James has lost a step, or a lot of his stats are generated through the system he plays in. I tend to think it will happen and it will be for all 3 reasons.
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The difference between Faneca/Porter and Taylor is that the other guys were considered to be the best in the game. Taylor doesn't get the respect/attention those guys got. For that reason, I don't see anyone giving Ike the big dollars (even though I think he is as good as they get).
Actually, the big difference between Faneca/Porter and Taylor is Faneca/Porter had big mouths and were pretty disrespectful of the owners and the FO in general. Taylor has a good relationship with the Rooneys and I haven't heard a ton of bitching from him. I would think the trend history has shown us is that you keep your mouth shut and be reasonable and you stand a good chance of sticking around ... not guaranteed, but it works better than going off like a d-bag.
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Default Re: Ed: Now We Wait

i see Taylor being resigned. i dont think we will break the bank on him but i gurentee he will be a steeler next season. Gay on the other hand will be gone
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