If Eli is in Brady's class then where does Ben fall?

steelfury02 · 08-17-2011, 05:32 PM

My answer - a class of his own. Of course I'm bias but I would rank top 10 QBs as follows:

Brady
Roethlisberger
P. Manning
Rodgers
Brees
Rivers
Vick
Flacco
E. Manning
Sanchez

I say class of his own because of how unorthodox Ben is. I put him at #2 based on 3 things - SB wins, clutch performances and doing more with below avg to avg offensive line (that any of the pocket passers wouldn't last in)

Eli Manning is an interception machine but he does have a SB win which puts him in the top 10 for me - he had one of the gutsiest performances against the almost perfect Patriots which is the only thing keeping him there - to be clutch like he was against our nemesis is huge in my eyes.

Would I put him in the same class as Brady? No. Until he commands the offense in that type of manner and racks up more clutch performances and SB wins - no. I rank the Rivers, Vick and Flacco above him because they seem to get better every year where Eli has regressed. You might scratch your head at the Sanchez one - but you can't fault 2 afc champ games in a row. He was a missing piece for the Jets - even if the stats aren't great and the inconsistency is there - the guy steps it up in the playoffs. If It was 2000 I would put Dilfer in my top 10 - put it that way.

Dodens Grav · 08-17-2011, 05:41 PM

I watch the Giants every week, and the interception total last year was a fluke. I can't even count how many of those interceptions bounced off of his receivers' hands. Eli is definitely better than Flacco, and as a pure passer, I would put him above Vick too.

steelfury02 · 08-17-2011, 05:46 PM

Fair enough - I could see him above Flacco. I'll have to disagree with you on Vick for now. I'll let the season play out as far as my ranking of E. Manning to Vick - not enough tape.

austinfrench76 · 08-17-2011, 05:53 PM

I think you have Rodgers too high. Hes 7th or 8th for me. The rest looks good.

fer522 · 08-17-2011, 05:59 PM

i'd put saint Tebow # 1

fer522 · 08-17-2011, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by fer522

i'd put saint Tebow # 1

i meant Tim Tebow sorry

***pete74*** · 08-17-2011, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by austinfrench76

I think you have Rodgers too high. Hes 7th or 8th for me. The rest looks good.

7th or 8th? he is the best QB in the NFL. if im starting a new team and could have any QB i would take Rodgers hands down. take a look at his stats and what he did from his first NFL game. i dont like him since he kicked our ass but he is the best and will only get better. also, dont even say he plays behind a great line because there far from great

steelfury02 · 08-17-2011, 06:32 PM

Hmmmm - I dunno - Rodgers is looking pretty good. He is at least top 5 for me.

stb_steeler · 08-17-2011, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by pete74

7th or 8th? he is the best QB in the NFL. if im starting a new team and could have any QB i would take Rodgers hands down. take a look at his stats and what he did from his first NFL game. i dont like him since he kicked our ass but he is the best and will only get better. also, dont even say he plays behind a great line because there far from great

Exactly pete.....After all he was ranked #1......Gotta love the random posts

DanRooney · 08-17-2011, 06:57 PM

1. Brady
2. Rodgers.
3. Brees
4. P. Manning
5. Roethlisberger
6. Rivers
7. Vick
8. Schaub
9. Ryan
10. Freeman

That's about as fair of a ranking as it gets.

Did somebody put Sanchez in their top 10? smh. Even putting Flacco in the top 10 seems comical. Even though he has similar numbers to Matt Ryan, you don't hear people saying "they'll never win because Matt Ryan is their quarterback." Can't say the same for Flacco.

08-17-2011, 05:46 PM	#3
steelfury02 Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,089 Member Number: 6076 Thanks: 144 Thanked 263 Times in 206 Posts	Re: If Eli is in Brady's class then where does Ben fall? Fair enough - I could see him above Flacco. I'll have to disagree with you on Vick for now. I'll let the season play out as far as my ranking of E. Manning to Vick - not enough tape.

08-17-2011, 05:53 PM	#4
austinfrench76 Assistant Coach Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,148 Member Number: 3516 Thanks: 282 Thanked 65 Times in 49 Posts	Re: If Eli is in Brady's class then where does Ben fall? I think you have Rodgers too high. Hes 7th or 8th for me. The rest looks good.

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fer522 Head Coach Archery 2000 Champion! Archery Champion! Ms Pacman Champion! Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: right here Posts: 1,678 Member Number: 16190 Thanks: 136 Thanked 141 Times in 96 Posts	Re: If Eli is in Brady's class then where does Ben fall? i'd put saint Tebow # 1

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steelfury02 Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,089 Member Number: 6076 Thanks: 144 Thanked 263 Times in 206 Posts	Re: If Eli is in Brady's class then where does Ben fall? Hmmmm - I dunno - Rodgers is looking pretty good. He is at least top 5 for me.

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DanRooney Head Coach Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portsmouth, VA Posts: 1,510 Gender: Male Member Number: 16248 Thanks: 0 Thanked 20 Times in 14 Posts	Re: If Eli is in Brady's class then where does Ben fall? 1. Brady 2. Rodgers. 3. Brees 4. P. Manning 5. Roethlisberger 6. Rivers 7. Vick 8. Schaub 9. Ryan 10. Freeman That's about as fair of a ranking as it gets. Did somebody put Sanchez in their top 10? smh. Even putting Flacco in the top 10 seems comical. Even though he has similar numbers to Matt Ryan, you don't hear people saying "they'll never win because Matt Ryan is their quarterback." Can't say the same for Flacco. __________________

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08-17-2011, 05:32 PM	#1
steelfury02 Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,089 Member Number: 6076 Thanks: 144 Thanked 263 Times in 206 Posts	If Eli is in Brady's class then where does Ben fall? My answer - a class of his own. Of course I'm bias but I would rank top 10 QBs as follows: Brady Roethlisberger P. Manning Rodgers Brees Rivers Vick Flacco E. Manning Sanchez I say class of his own because of how unorthodox Ben is. I put him at #2 based on 3 things - SB wins, clutch performances and doing more with below avg to avg offensive line (that any of the pocket passers wouldn't last in) Eli Manning is an interception machine but he does have a SB win which puts him in the top 10 for me - he had one of the gutsiest performances against the almost perfect Patriots which is the only thing keeping him there - to be clutch like he was against our nemesis is huge in my eyes. Would I put him in the same class as Brady? No. Until he commands the offense in that type of manner and racks up more clutch performances and SB wins - no. I rank the Rivers, Vick and Flacco above him because they seem to get better every year where Eli has regressed. You might scratch your head at the Sanchez one - but you can't fault 2 afc champ games in a row. He was a missing piece for the Jets - even if the stats aren't great and the inconsistency is there - the guy steps it up in the playoffs. If It was 2000 I would put Dilfer in my top 10 - put it that way.

08-17-2011, 05:41 PM	#2
Dodens Grav Assistant Coach Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,427 Member Number: 18585 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Re: If Eli is in Brady's class then where does Ben fall? I watch the Giants every week, and the interception total last year was a fluke. I can't even count how many of those interceptions bounced off of his receivers' hands. Eli is definitely better than Flacco, and as a pure passer, I would put him above Vick too.

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