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Old 08-24-2011, 10:43 AM   #21
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Tebow would be a damn expensive full back.
Your right ... the first practice of backs on 'backers, James Harrison would explode right through Tebow.
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Old 08-24-2011, 10:52 AM   #22
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When it comes to guys like Ward and Farrior, it's not like I don't like them. They are all-time great Steelers...but their time in the 'burgh should be over or at least close to over. I really hate them standing in front of Brown and Sylvester when I think the younger guys at this point would be better options.
I agree their time is getting short with this team, but I don't think (especially in Farrior's case) that the younger talent is better than the vet talent. The TD Ward had last week was something you probably won't get out of Brown this year ... Ward ran a route that comes from a few years of playing with Ben. The good news is Brown will see plenty of action this year. Sylvester couldn't carry Farrior's jock right now. I think he's a very talented player, but Farrior is the field general of that defense (he's making the pre-snap adjustments to the front 7). Do you think Sylvester is going to step right in and take over? Plus, Farrior had a decent year last year. Time will catch up with these guys and it may be a case of just one more year, but veteran leadership has been a key to the success of this team.
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Old 08-24-2011, 11:14 AM   #23
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I've never been a Tebow fan, certainly not as a QB, but at 6'3" 245lbs, he'd definitely make an interesting converted TE or FB used as a gadget guy or emergency QB, but just like with Pryor there's going to be some other team dumb enough to give more and pay more (of which I would never pay much more than league average if not league minimum for him) to even bother fantasizing about the possibility

and that's before getting into the argument of whether or not he'd even be effective in such a position
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Old 08-24-2011, 01:53 PM   #24
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Yes, gadget plays are ok for him. He's thrown somewhat and he knows how to take a snap which is of value if our first two QBs go down with injury. If he can play TE or catch a pass out of the backfield, then he may be of more use than to activate Charlie Batch as the 46th player.
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Old 08-24-2011, 02:01 PM   #25
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I think more than anything Tebow supporters see it as such a wasted opportunity. I'm sure it will be hard for Tebow to be sitting watching Cam Newton start. Want to talk about not being familiar with a pro-style offense? Lol - its called throwing him into the fire and learning on the go.

The Broncos obviously think waaaaay too highly of Orton. Time for them to stop overestimating themselves as an organization and take some more risks IMHO. One reason and one reason alone Denver suffers - no leader at QB, no leader on offense. Been that way since Elway left.

The ultimate question is - if you were in Denver's position and you had Orton, Quinn and Tebow - what would you do?

Doesn't matter I guess cause at this rate Tebow is already thinking of what team he is going to next. This won't end well at this rate.

Just glad we have the Steelers cause ultimately with the Bronco theory if Tommy Maddox got hurt then Brian St. Pierre would have been the logical choice cause ya know he had played some. We don't need to see what a first rounder can do. Can you imagine not putting Ben into that game? lololololololololol
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Yes, gadget plays are ok for him. He's thrown somewhat and he knows how to take a snap which is of value if our first two QBs go down with injury. If he can play TE or catch a pass out of the backfield, then he may be of more use than to activate Charlie Batch as the 46th player.

THere's an article linked early stating that he can't take a snap from under center. He's essentially frozen in place and behind on every play because of it. We don't need a 50 million dollar project.
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Well - the Broncos do. They might as well start working on that project . . .
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Well - the Broncos do. They might as well start working on that project . . .
Yeah, they better start working on it. Cause the guy isn't a TE nor a FB. Taking up a roster spot for someone who is a gadget play specialist is a poor decision. Especially since the defense will know it's going to be a trick play when he comes in. And, by the way, don't be fooled by the 1 long run last year ... in the pros, this guy isn't that fast.
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You guys must be drinking from the Merril Hoge Koolaid. I realize many people are turned off by Tebow by the attention he attracts, but the dude is a winner. I'm a big Florida fan and I watched every game the kid played at Florida. He's a QB and nothing else. He tore up the SEC, which while I know it isn't the NFL, it's the strongest and fastest conference in college. He has unmatched leadership and is a huge motivator for teammates. You also seem to forget that he threw for over 300 yards in 2 of the 4 games he started last season. He's only been in the league a year. Give him time and he can become a solid QB. You can now flame me that I have that out of my system.
If he was a winner he would have showed it in the NFL by now. I said he would never be able to make it in the NFL his junior season and I stand by that statement today. Give it another year and you will be ready to put another notch on the "great in college but couldn't make the transition" belt, along with... pretty much every Heisman winner.

You also seem to forget that in UF he played behind one of the greatest offensive lines in NCAA history, had a slew of weapons to choose from, and the greatest factor of all: He played against COLLEGE DEFENSES!
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I've never been a Tebow fan, certainly not as a QB, but at 6'3" 245lbs, he'd definitely make an interesting converted TE or FB used as a gadget guy or emergency QB, but just like with Pryor there's going to be some other team dumb enough to give more and pay more (of which I would never pay much more than league average if not league minimum for him) to even bother fantasizing about the possibility

and that's before getting into the argument of whether or not he'd even be effective in such a position
The difference is Pryor has proven himself to be stronger, faster, and more agile than Tebow. I can see a Tight End or Fullback out of Pryor but never Tebow. He does not have the grace of any TE I've seen and certainly doesnt have the tenacity a FB needs.
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