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Old 09-28-2011, 01:17 PM   #31
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Default Re: Enough Is Enough: Offense Needs New Gameplan

lets look at the O-line they had in '06

LT-Marvel Smith(2nd rd)
LG Alan Faneca(1st rd)
C-Jeff Hartings(FA, 1st rd when drafted by Detroit)
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RT-max Starks(3rd rd)

When you invest in your trenches it's sets the foundation....the D-LINE equally kicked ass
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Old 09-28-2011, 02:38 PM   #32
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after researching, 2006 was really kreiders last year, and willie was leading the league in rushing with carey davis leading the way-



carey davis helped parker get to that league leading yardage total, but parkers td's were greatly reduced w/o a true fullback.

looks like bruce could call a pretty successfull run game with a fullback. i wonder why he abandoned it. willies record setting performance against the browns is a far cry from that abysmal showing we gave in the 40+ mph frigid wind storm with 45+ passing attempts in '09.

point is, it all has more to do with just the talent on o-line.
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Old 09-28-2011, 03:51 PM   #33
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Interesting how it is being leaked that some of the problems on Sunday night go back to Ben

Yesterday Bouchettte reported this

Mike Tomlin said something interesting today that we all should have picked up on. He said many times the QB is given an option of plays and he calls them at the line. Maybe he's calling the wrong ones at times, and not BA. I wrote today that many of the run plays that were called were not the ones they practiced last week.

http://plus.sites.post-gazette.com/i...ports/steelers

Then this from Gerry Dulac of the P-G today on the second sack that resulted in the fumble and TD run back

I found out today that the play in question -- second-and-10 at the Colts 42 in the second quarter – was supposed to be a draw with a quick-pass option. Scott took a short drop-step on Freeney because that is what he is supposed to do on a draw play -- let Freeney get upfield to the outside so he runs himself out of the play. Left guard Chris Kemoeatu was also blocking downfield on the play, another indication it was a running play.

Roethlisberger has the option to throw on that play, based on the defense, but it is supposed to use a quick, three-step drop. That way he gets rid of the ball before the pressure arrives. Instead, he took a five-step drop, allowing Freeney enough time to hit him from behind, forcing the fumble that Jamaal Anderson returned for a touchdown to tie the score at 10-10.

Don't blame Scott for the turnover. He was only doing what he was supposed to do.


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My bet is this is coming from the coaches - maybe there is some concern Roethlisberger has regressed in terms of freelancing too much?
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Old 09-28-2011, 04:19 PM   #34
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Interesting how it is being leaked that some of the problems on Sunday night go back to Ben

Yesterday Bouchettte reported this

Mike Tomlin said something interesting today that we all should have picked up on. He said many times the QB is given an option of plays and he calls them at the line. Maybe he's calling the wrong ones at times, and not BA. I wrote today that many of the run plays that were called were not the ones they practiced last week.

http://plus.sites.post-gazette.com/i...ports/steelers

Then this from Gerry Dulac of the P-G today on the second sack that resulted in the fumble and TD run back

I found out today that the play in question -- second-and-10 at the Colts 42 in the second quarter was supposed to be a draw with a quick-pass option. Scott took a short drop-step on Freeney because that is what he is supposed to do on a draw play -- let Freeney get upfield to the outside so he runs himself out of the play. Left guard Chris Kemoeatu was also blocking downfield on the play, another indication it was a running play.

Roethlisberger has the option to throw on that play, based on the defense, but it is supposed to use a quick, three-step drop. That way he gets rid of the ball before the pressure arrives. Instead, he took a five-step drop, allowing Freeney enough time to hit him from behind, forcing the fumble that Jamaal Anderson returned for a touchdown to tie the score at 10-10.

Don't blame Scott for the turnover. He was only doing what he was supposed to do.


http://plus.sites.post-gazette.com/i...ports/steelers

My bet is this is coming from the coaches - maybe there is some concern Roethlisberger has regressed in terms of freelancing too much?
Great post. And we fans not only don't know what play is called, we don't know what line (protection) call was made, nor the specific responsibilities. Over the course of the first 3 games, I'd say the o-line is looking more confused than anything. Yes, Scott sucked it up and a pro bowl LT would have been able to compensate instead of getting beat like a rented mule ... but it certainly doesn't help when everyone starts running off script. The good news is, this could get turned around quickly. Remember how bad the O-line played vs. the Ravens in last year's playoffs? I think everyone was surprise how well that group played the next week against the Jets.
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Old 09-28-2011, 06:01 PM   #35
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offensive play calling sucks!!!!!!! its crazy with the weapons we have on offense but then again i don't think our d can stop anyone......we let the COLTS score 20.....gimmee a break!!!!!
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Maybe the Steelers should just start running a spread offense. Ben would already be back in shotgun and would have time to read the d and not get killed while dropping back to pass. Or the Steelers could go flag football style and have one guy snap the ball and just line up a crap ton of receivers.
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