Turning Point of the Game

***tony hipchest*** · 10-02-2011, 09:39 PM

in the 3rd quarter the steelers had tied the game on 2 consecutive scoring drives and held the texans to a 3 and out.

on the texans 2nd drive of the quarter it was 3rd and 6 and the steelers were ready for another 3 and out, completely turning all momentum in their favor.

a pass to a wr/te (#81?) was plucked off the grass and ruled a 1st down.

the ball obviously was touching the ground and i have never seen this ruled a completion despite him having control. the only time (since keyshawn johnson inspired the rule change with the buc 10 years ago) i have ever seen this ruled a completion is when the receiver is falling to the ground and has atleast some part of his hand under a significant portion of the ball.

it is understood that when a receiver has his hands underneath the body of the ball and the nose of the ball touches the ground while their is no shift and control is maintained it is a completion.

immediate momentum shift. the texans score within 4 plays to make it 17-10 (which winds up being the final score).

now the steelers still had plenty of opportunities to tie it up, and this error by the refs in no way cost us the game, but it was the turning point of the game....

hence the title of this thread- turning point of the game. as bad as this game was, it was a single blown call away from being completely different.

mashsoccer37 · 10-02-2011, 09:46 PM

I thought he had complete control and it was a catch.... I don't think there was a turning point of the game, they had control of the game from the beginning to the end with a small period of time where things looked slightly hopeful for us

grward · 10-02-2011, 09:51 PM

I agree Mash, there's no such thing as a turning point when the other teams dominates the entire 1st half. I'm getting frustrated watching Tomlin on the sideline acting as though he's watching a Republican debate. If he can't get fired up how will the team get fired up?

OX1947 · 10-02-2011, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by grward

I agree Mash, there's no such thing as a turning point when the other teams dominates the entire 1st half. I'm getting frustrated watching Tomlin on the sideline acting as though he's watching a Republican debate. If he can't get fired up how will the team get fired up?

Fired up shit is worthless when both your lines are getting destroyed. Also, no pass rush.

***tony hipchest*** · 10-02-2011, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mashsoccer37

I thought he had complete control and it was a catch

it was on the ground. hand wasnt under the ball while it was on the ground as well.

i guess they just started interpreting the rule differently.

either way, many games have a turning point (theres even a new NFL films television show dedicated to it).

not getting a 2nd consecutive 3 and out and allowing a quick td with the score tied, was the turning point in todays game.

teh texans regained momentum and the steelers never recovered.

DanRooney · 10-02-2011, 11:46 PM

Really? The turning point in the game. A catch they showed on replay that everyone saw was legit? Not any of the several plays where the Texans dominating our front 7 in the run game? Not the Arian Foster 40 yard TD run where Woodley loops wide and misses him and blocks Troy? A catch that was obviously a catch?

lmao. Delusional.

***tony hipchest*** · 10-02-2011, 11:59 PM

how did i know you would object the obvious?

a 10-10 tie.

a third and 6 play that was either gonna turn into a 3 and out or a first down.

it turned into a first down and a 7 point score 3 - 4 plays later.

= 17-10

final score- 17-10.

yes, that play was the turning point.

its a shame i have to explain things so simple. tomorrow, if you go outside and stand on the corner before 8 AM it will be a short little yellow bus picking you up to take you to school. please follow directions.

thank you.

and dont forget to pick up your report card stamped with "F" for FAIL!

PhantomJB93 · 10-03-2011, 12:59 AM

While we may be able to pinpoint this as a "turning point" we cannot blame the game on this call. I mean, the refs practically went out of their way to penalize the Texans today and we couldn't take advantage of anything.

***Fire Arians*** · 10-03-2011, 01:03 AM

farrior getting beat for a huge gain, lamarr "jason gildong" woodley losing contain and not only that but getting in the way of troy making a play that he should have made

***tony hipchest*** · 10-03-2011, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhantomJB93

While we may be able to pinpoint this as a "turning point" we cannot blame the game on this call. I mean, the refs practically went out of their way to penalize the Texans today and we couldn't take advantage of anything.

we already covered this point in the first post of this thread.

thanks.

10-02-2011, 09:39 PM	#1
*tony hipchest* IRONMAN a.k.a. Tony Stark Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Give me back my game... Posts: 34,344 Member Number: 658 Thanks: 184 Thanked 236 Times in 167 Posts	Turning Point of the Game in the 3rd quarter the steelers had tied the game on 2 consecutive scoring drives and held the texans to a 3 and out. on the texans 2nd drive of the quarter it was 3rd and 6 and the steelers were ready for another 3 and out, completely turning all momentum in their favor. a pass to a wr/te (#81?) was plucked off the grass and ruled a 1st down. the ball obviously was touching the ground and i have never seen this ruled a completion despite him having control. the only time (since keyshawn johnson inspired the rule change with the buc 10 years ago) i have ever seen this ruled a completion is when the receiver is falling to the ground and has atleast some part of his hand under a significant portion of the ball. it is understood that when a receiver has his hands underneath the body of the ball and the nose of the ball touches the ground while their is no shift and control is maintained it is a completion. immediate momentum shift. the texans score within 4 plays to make it 17-10 (which winds up being the final score). now the steelers still had plenty of opportunities to tie it up, and this error by the refs in no way cost us the game, but it was the turning point of the game.... hence the title of this thread- turning point of the game. as bad as this game was, it was a single blown call away from being completely different. __________________

10-02-2011, 09:46 PM	#2
mashsoccer37 Draft Prospect Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 78 Member Number: 14991 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Turning Point of the Game I thought he had complete control and it was a catch.... I don't think there was a turning point of the game, they had control of the game from the beginning to the end with a small period of time where things looked slightly hopeful for us

10-02-2011, 09:51 PM	#3
grward Bench Warmer Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 307 Member Number: 7527 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Turning Point of the Game I agree Mash, there's no such thing as a turning point when the other teams dominates the entire 1st half. I'm getting frustrated watching Tomlin on the sideline acting as though he's watching a Republican debate. If he can't get fired up how will the team get fired up?

10-02-2011, 11:46 PM	#6
DanRooney Head Coach Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portsmouth, VA Posts: 1,510 Gender: Male Member Number: 16248 Thanks: 0 Thanked 20 Times in 14 Posts	Re: Turning Point of the Game Really? The turning point in the game. A catch they showed on replay that everyone saw was legit? Not any of the several plays where the Texans dominating our front 7 in the run game? Not the Arian Foster 40 yard TD run where Woodley loops wide and misses him and blocks Troy? A catch that was obviously a catch? lmao. Delusional. __________________

10-02-2011, 11:59 PM	#7
*tony hipchest* IRONMAN a.k.a. Tony Stark Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Give me back my game... Posts: 34,344 Member Number: 658 Thanks: 184 Thanked 236 Times in 167 Posts	Re: Turning Point of the Game how did i know you would object the obvious? a 10-10 tie. a third and 6 play that was either gonna turn into a 3 and out or a first down. it turned into a first down and a 7 point score 3 - 4 plays later. = 17-10 final score- 17-10. yes, that play was the turning point. its a shame i have to explain things so simple. tomorrow, if you go outside and stand on the corner before 8 AM it will be a short little yellow bus picking you up to take you to school. please follow directions. thank you. and dont forget to pick up your report card stamped with "F" for FAIL! __________________

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10-03-2011, 12:59 AM	#8
PhantomJB93 Assistant Coach Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Blacksburg, VA Posts: 1,401 Gender: Male Member Number: 13907 Thanks: 24 Thanked 99 Times in 67 Posts	Re: Turning Point of the Game While we may be able to pinpoint this as a "turning point" we cannot blame the game on this call. I mean, the refs practically went out of their way to penalize the Texans today and we couldn't take advantage of anything.

10-03-2011, 01:03 AM	#9
*Fire Arians* Anti-Spammer Mod Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Hawaii Posts: 6,619 Member Number: 16570 Thanks: 120 Thanked 378 Times in 238 Posts	Re: Turning Point of the Game farrior getting beat for a huge gain, lamarr "jason gildong" woodley losing contain and not only that but getting in the way of troy making a play that he should have made

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