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Old 10-06-2011, 05:11 AM   #81
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I'm pretty sure he means in the league right now...not all time lol.
He's suggesting that Tomlin is the new Seifert, or Barry Switzer, etc., guys who did nothing more than inherit great teams. Hence the subsequent comment by Sixburgher asking if we can extrapolate that Cowher was therefore Walsh.
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Old 10-06-2011, 08:20 AM   #82
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He's suggesting that Tomlin is the new Seifert, or Barry Switzer, etc., guys who did nothing more than inherit great teams. Hence the subsequent comment by Sixburgher asking if we can extrapolate that Cowher was therefore Walsh.
Ahh ok...missed that lol.

Yeah, don't agree with that much either. Or at least I don't think you can make an objective call on that just yet.
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Old 10-06-2011, 08:25 AM   #83
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ahhh...

maybe your point just wasnt clear. did he bring a defensive philosopy or make "an impression on Dallas' offense"?

or was it his defensive philosphy that left an offensive imprint?

anyways, dallas sucks, wade was fired, and they didnt win jack shit with him as HC, so maybe he didnt bring much of anything to the table and it was just a bad example.
You're a funny guy... I mistakenly called Phillips an offensive coach, but my point remains in relation to Tomlin.
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Are you drunk, Top 3 in the league? You ever hear of George Seifort?
are you drunk? other then bellycheat who else has taken a team to 2 superbowls the past decade? so name me three better coaches in the nfl right now? I would say in order it's belichick, tomlin and sean payton
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Oh yea - I'd have a hard time finding two coaches in the league right now that win more and more importantly - win more with the type of obstacles he has faced in his first 5 years.

Even if he did in fact "inherit" a team - it was still up to him to manage a locker room full of guys that aren't exactly "Yes sirs" or can manage to keep it under the radar during the season and off season.

What happens behind the scenes between Tomlin and ownership, Tomlin and coaches, and Tomlin and players is probably a lot more telling than the Tomlin with fans.

4 full seasons. 3 playoff appearances (and still 9-7 in the non-playoff season). 2 SB appearances. 1 SB win. Knowing when to not try and fix one hell of a defense while coaching with a mediocre at best offense. 1 Drama-inducing QB, one crappy O-line, some polarizing players on defense, lack of run game - and all he does is put up Ws. I'm not quite sure what we are lacking other than what we think we should see from an outsider's perspective.
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is it tomlins fault that on every pass play ben is running for his life. farrior is old, william gay is a 4th cb at best, injuries are our problem not tomlin
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Now, where most of you are right with Tomlin is his decision to let Bruce run the offfense. He needs to put his foot down a little more. Not only for the sake of the team playing well, but for the health of his QB. Big Ben may be an issue with that as well. Ben is in his 8th year, and he may need to start thinking about whether he is going to be able to play 5 more years. He can not continue to allow himself to get murdered the way he has. And I put it on the head coach to convince and protect his 100 mil QB and 2-time SB winner, who happens to be in his prime.
I completely agree. As the head coach, he is ultimately responsible. If we can't count on our line to protect Ben, then ultimately it is Tomlin's fault. I blame Arians and the O-line on a regular basis, but if these same problems keep happening over and over, it's time for he head coach to take the blame.

I keep waiting for Tomlin to fix the problems, but so far nothing seems to be working.
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