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Old 12-12-2011, 05:05 PM   #21
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Default Re: Will James Harrison be suspended? Is the NFL out to get the Steelers?

they most certainly have the power to negotiate that caveat through the owners

We don't sign A. unless you vote to supplant B.

Anyways, was saying it out of emotion - we can thank the Steelers ownership, who were among Goodell's biggest supporters for installing him
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Old 12-12-2011, 05:13 PM   #22
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Default Re: Will James Harrison be suspended? Is the NFL out to get the Steelers?

Defense, do not change the way you play just because you're getting fined and NFL is trying to go soft.

On the otherhand hit hard, real hard but by the new rules. James you could've blown him up no matter what even if you went low.

I was critisized for saying I thought the hit on Ben was cheap but others said it was okay because he was out of the pocket. So I guess I'm wrong.

James who cares about a concuss quarterback. If Brady does that and gets out of the pocket end his career and take his follow through knee and remove it out of the back of his leg. Please!

Afterall hitting a quarterback like that is okay right?
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Old 12-12-2011, 06:14 PM   #23
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if the players were smart they would have pushed to get Goodell fired before agreeing to anything before end to lockout
Amen to this! I wondered the same thing. If I was a player, this would definitely have been a talking point in the lock out. This pansy ass way of playing is something that has been ongoing for a few seasons now. And a lot of the players see it and speak out about it. It is TACKLE football after all. If you don't want the QB to get hit, put a flag on his hip and call it a day. I would actually prefer it if they would do that. Get rid of the stupid miscalled penalties and just take the refs out of that decision making process all together.

Pull the flag and its a sack. End of discussion.
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Old 12-12-2011, 06:19 PM   #24
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The players have no say as to who the commissioner is. He's subservient only to the owners.
The owners are subservient to the ticket holders and television viewers. THAT IS US!!! Don't buy tix or watch games! That will change the league back in a heartbeat. Remember the best way to get what you want, is to hit them in the pocket book.
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Old 12-12-2011, 06:36 PM   #25
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unfortunately what a lot of people already know is that billionaires tend not to give a crap or are given any incentive to give a crap about the little guys so while you are correct, I think we are past the point of no return - especially because of the prominence of technology and reporting of medical advancement in understanding concussions

Not saying I don't agree with protecting players because I do - just don't agree with the inconsistency in disciplining it - which I think most fans would agree with
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Not a lot of contrition coming from Mr. Harrison

Pro Bowl linebacker James Harrison said he doesn't think he will be suspended by the National Football League for his penalized hit on Browns quarterback Colt McCoy and isn't going to worry about the possibility....

"I don't think it's suspension-worthy," Harrison said after practice. "I don't think it's worthy of anything, but that's just my own personal thoughts."...

The NFL said Harrison's hit was illegal because he violated a rule "that prohibits defensive players from using their helmet against a passer who is in a defenseless posture, including by "forcibly hitting the passer's head or neck area with the helmet or facemask."

"They didn't even call helmet-to-helmet; they called roughing the passer," Harrison said. "He took off running with it and, at the last second, he like chuck-and-ducked.

"He tucked the ball and made like he was about to run. So I was going to tackle him."


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Old 12-12-2011, 07:07 PM   #27
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Didn't the Steelers vote against the agreement because of that?
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Regardless of what happens, I'm still PO'd at Harrison: he KNOWS better, he knew it was the QB, he did NOT have to hit him that high he had him dead to rights and could have wrapped him or heck drive his shoulder through him. It's like you tell your kids NOT to do something and then they do it right in front of you. It no longer matters if it really was a bad thing or not...

The hit deserved the flag (dem da rulez) and I won't be upset at a fine. A suspension is too much imo. First offense this season and was between the whistles. But James, PLEASE use your head to think with brother!

And yes, the NFL is ruining the game...
This still is the game of football isn't it? Players wear pads and helmets for protection don't they? McCoy was wearing a helmet and shoulder pads wasn't he? I would say you should be "PO'd" if Harrison pulled a Ron Artest, if he chased Colt McCoy with a baseball bat, if he hit him in the face with a hockey stick, then I say be "PO'd" at him. Now Roethlisberger has been intentionally hit low a few times this season, isn't that against the rules? I believe so, how many suspensions were levied for that infraction, hmmmmm let me help you none!!!!! Ummm last year Ngata, no matter how you look at it broke Ben's nose, no not on a tackle, not on a sack, but a hand between the face mask miraculously to the nose, was there a fine, was there even a penalty, answer once again is NO!!!!! Bottom line, if you are not going to penalize the others for their "aggressive" play, don't penalize Harrison!!!
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Not a lot of contrition coming from Mr. Harrison

Pro Bowl linebacker James Harrison said he doesn't think he will be suspended by the National Football League for his penalized hit on Browns quarterback Colt McCoy and isn't going to worry about the possibility....

"I don't think it's suspension-worthy," Harrison said after practice. "I don't think it's worthy of anything, but that's just my own personal thoughts."...

The NFL said Harrison's hit was illegal because he violated a rule "that prohibits defensive players from using their helmet against a passer who is in a defenseless posture, including by "forcibly hitting the passer's head or neck area with the helmet or facemask."

"They didn't even call helmet-to-helmet; they called roughing the passer," Harrison said. "He took off running with it and, at the last second, he like chuck-and-ducked.

"He tucked the ball and made like he was about to run. So I was going to tackle him."


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I agree with Harrison.

To me, it was a big hit but it was done legally and it's part of the game.
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Old 12-12-2011, 07:49 PM   #30
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Default Re: Will James Harrison be suspended? Is the NFL out to get the Steelers?

mendenhall should have chucked the ball right before gocong hit him in the helmet, maybe that woulda gave us an extra set of downs to work with lol.
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