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Old 12-17-2011, 06:54 AM   #11
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The game I played growing up was called FOOTBALL, as a very smart high school football coach once told us "The Game of Football is Nothing Short of a Controlled War", we all know War is Hell!!!!! The NFL has gotten real, I mean real soft, the question I have to ask is this, the hits weren't an issue during Rozelle's tenure, they weren't an issue with Tagliabue, why all of the sudden are they such a big issue with Goodell? Now I get the concussion issue, however, concussions have always been a part of football, no matter what you do they will not be avoided, sort of like torn, ACL's, MCL' s etc.... So what does Goodell do next, no tackling below the waist?
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The game I played growing up was called FOOTBALL, as a very smart high school football coach once told us "The Game of Football is Nothing Short of a Controlled War", we all know War is Hell!!!!! The NFL has gotten real, I mean real soft, the question I have to ask is this, the hits weren't an issue during Rozelle's tenure, they weren't an issue with Tagliabue, why all of the sudden are they such a big issue with Goodell? Now I get the concussion issue, however, concussions have always been a part of football, no matter what you do they will not be avoided, sort of like torn, ACL's, MCL' s etc.... So what does Goodell do next, no tackling below the waist?
No tackling at all. He wants basketball scores
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Old 12-17-2011, 08:59 AM   #13
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Default Re: Your stand on illegal hits and laying up on defenseless reciever or QB?

What's needed are more refs like Ben Dreith who knew when someone was giving someone else "the business down there".

Since many cases of helmet-to-helmet contact are judgement calls, I think there needs to be better judgement. A good ref knows the difference between incidental contact and headhunting and that judgement needs to be part of the call or no-call. Right now, the ref's hands are tied by the way the rules are written as well as by the hysteria about concussions, so that ANY helmet contact is automatically called out when in many cases helmet-to-helmet contact is in the form of a glancing blow or simply a rebound from contacting a players pads and is clearly not an attempt to injure.

Many times when a law (or rule) is the subject of a "crackdown" extreme enforcement is the result and every single little thing is put under a microscope and even the slightest infraction is treated as a major offense. Once all the hoopla dies down, things become more forgiving but that takes time. And for players such as Harrison who ramp up the rhetoric and publicly protest the enforcement, it takes even longer.

It shouldn't be that way, but there's always a difference between what should be and what is.
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Old 12-17-2011, 11:25 AM   #14
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90% of these hits that used to be appladed would now result in fines and suspensions...

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I got a lot of enjoyment out of that video. Goodell needs to die. Now.
the (once) great sport of Professional Football should-not be run by a woman



that's MY stand on the state of the NFL at this point in-time
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Old 12-17-2011, 11:40 AM   #15
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Theres less penalties and fines in womans football
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Old 12-17-2011, 12:29 PM   #16
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Ms. Goodell would fine the girl in the center of the picture, with the Pink band around her thigh, for a 'uniform violation' (it appears the rest of the team is wearing Black), then give the band to Marcia
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My thoughts - If you don't want to get hit, don't play football. If you want to be a commissioner of a sports league that involves no hitting, go to the NBA or the MLS or MLB, stay the f*&$! out of football.

Goodell is destroying everything great about this league. He is making it harder and harder for me to watch pro football.

Ryan Clark and James Harrison are not dirty football players. They are great football players.
Richard Seymour and Ray Lewis are dirty, scum bag players. But they are not Steelers (that's another story)
Ndamukung Suh is just dumb and immature. I would not consider him dirty, over aggressive and dumb? sure
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Old 12-17-2011, 01:15 PM   #18
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the NFL sucks.. every game is marred by horrible and inconsistent officiating. they are turning it into an arena football/flag football type of game with all the rules. it's going to continue to get worse with new rules being introduced each year.
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The game I played growing up was called FOOTBALL, as a very smart high school football coach once told us "The Game of Football is Nothing Short of a Controlled War", we all know War is Hell!!!!! The NFL has gotten real, I mean real soft, the question I have to ask is this, the hits weren't an issue during Rozelle's tenure, they weren't an issue with Tagliabue, why all of the sudden are they such a big issue with Goodell? Now I get the concussion issue, however, concussions have always been a part of football, no matter what you do they will not be avoided, sort of like torn, ACL's, MCL' s etc.... So what does Goodell do next, no tackling below the waist?
You obviously don't "get" the "concussion issue" if you don't understand why concussions are treated differently now than they were 10, 20, 30 years ago. What the league is doing, at the core, is important, and necessary. It's not being implemented smoothly and obviously plenty of people have various forms of disagreements with it, but with what science has told us about concussions and the effects of concussions, it is a moral imperative for there to be some sort of system in place to prevent and discourage the actions that lead to concussions. That sentiment is one that I fully support.

And Ryan Clark hits guys in the head way too often. Maybe he's not a "dirty player" necessarily, but then again, maybe he is. Just because he's a Steeler doesn't mean he's perfect.
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You obviously don't "get" the "concussion issue" if you don't understand why concussions are treated differently now than they were 10, 20, 30 years ago. What the league is doing, at the core, is important, and necessary. It's not being implemented smoothly and obviously plenty of people have various forms of disagreements with it, but with what science has told us about concussions and the effects of concussions, it is a moral imperative for there to be some sort of system in place to prevent and discourage the actions that lead to concussions. That sentiment is one that I fully support.

And Ryan Clark hits guys in the head way too often. Maybe he's not a "dirty player" necessarily, but then again, maybe he is. Just because he's a Steeler doesn't mean he's perfect.
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