Why register with the Steelers Fever Forums?
 • Intelligent and friendly discussions.
 • It's free and it's quick. Always.
 • Enter events in the forums calendar.
 • Very user friendly software.
 • Exclusive contests and giveaways.

 Donate to Steelers Fever, Click here
 Our 2013 Goal: $400.00 - To Date: $00.00 (00.00%)
 Home | Forums | Editorials | Shop | Tickets | Downloads | Contact Pittsburgh Steelers Forum Feed Not Just Fans. Hardcore Fans.

Go Back   Steelers Fever Forums > Steelers Football > Pittsburgh Steelers


Steelers Fever Fan Shop

Doc's Sports Get FREE NFL Picks and College Football picks as well as Football Lines like live NFL Lines and updated NFL Power Rankings all at Doc's Sports Service.

Steelers Steelers - Referees    Browns

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 01-27-2012, 07:04 PM   #11
55BaileyFan
Starter
 
55BaileyFan's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Ohio
Posts: 645
Member Number: 13479
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default Re: Could the Casey Hampton Injury Push Steelers Towards A 4-3 Defense?

Quote:
Originally Posted by jiminpa View Post
I really don't understand why so many people are so Hell-bent on ruining the best defense in the league.
I agree. People want change so much and I don't understand it. Obviously the front office isn't interested in change because they just "forced" Arians out according to him. The front office runs what the people in the Burgh want and that is that.

It wouldn't make sense if it didn't work but run heavy and strong D has won us championships. Now, I know we were a 4-3 in the 1970's but we don't have that personel anymore and a 4-3 takes away Polamalu's ability to roam around.

It changes more than just the front, it totally re-works how the secondary work and how the linebackers work with them. People switch to the 3-4 and become really successful not the other way around. Remember it was Baltimore that switched years ago, Houston did it last year.

Not in a hurry to change yet. Our personnel is still built for the 3-4 and we don't need to change what works.
__________________
55BaileyFan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2012, 07:25 PM   #12
Bayz101
Renegade
Supporter
 
Bayz101's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Mansfield, Ohio
Posts: 7,670
Gender: Male
Member Number: 18856
Thanks: 1,209
Thanked 3,459 Times in 1,557 Posts
My Mood: Sad
Default Re: Could the Casey Hampton Injury Push Steelers Towards A 4-3 Defense?

Regardless of how "nasty" are defense was last year, it was still the #1 overall defense in the NFL. If it's not broke, don't fix it.
__________________


"Either you're playing dumb, or it's not an act". -Judge Judy

No need to drive me crazy. I can walk from here.
Bayz101 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2012, 07:27 PM   #13
Bayz101
Renegade
Supporter
 
Bayz101's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Mansfield, Ohio
Posts: 7,670
Gender: Male
Member Number: 18856
Thanks: 1,209
Thanked 3,459 Times in 1,557 Posts
My Mood: Sad
Default Re: Could the Casey Hampton Injury Push Steelers Towards A 4-3 Defense?

Also. Hampton hasn't been nearly as aggressive and effective in the past few years compared to his early days. Losing him isn't going to hurt us as much as some people seem to think. We've had Ziggy Hood and Heyward (to name just a couple) sitting on the bench long enough, it's time to get them in there.
__________________


"Either you're playing dumb, or it's not an act". -Judge Judy

No need to drive me crazy. I can walk from here.
Bayz101 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2012, 08:08 PM   #14
ricardisimo
Administrator
 
ricardisimo's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Lalaland
Posts: 5,420
Gender: Male
Member Number: 15369
Thanks: 312
Thanked 859 Times in 411 Posts
Default Re: Could the Casey Hampton Injury Push Steelers Towards A 4-3 Defense?

My understanding is that the 4-3 is more expensive, just because quality DTs are more expensive than ILBs. That would hurt our cap situation. Not this year, if indeed we were to use the personnel you discussed, who are already under contract, but long-term is another matter.

For what it's worth, I'm against switching. No one has ever made any compelling case to me that there is any benefit to altering a scheme which puts the Steelers perennially in the top-5 defenses.
Quote:
Originally Posted by pete74 View Post
teams chang all the time and are fine. Houston just changed and instantly became a top defense
Yes, and they changed, specifically, to which alignment?
__________________
Why does God hate amputees?
ricardisimo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2012, 08:24 PM   #15
Bayz101
Renegade
Supporter
 
Bayz101's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Mansfield, Ohio
Posts: 7,670
Gender: Male
Member Number: 18856
Thanks: 1,209
Thanked 3,459 Times in 1,557 Posts
My Mood: Sad
Default Re: Could the Casey Hampton Injury Push Steelers Towards A 4-3 Defense?

Quote:
Originally Posted by ricardisimo View Post
My understanding is that the 4-3 is more expensive, just because quality DTs are more expensive than ILBs. That would hurt our cap situation. Not this year, if indeed we were to use the personnel you discussed, who are already under contract, but long-term is another matter.

For what it's worth, I'm against switching. No one has ever made any compelling case to me that there is any benefit to altering a scheme which puts the Steelers perennially in the top-5 defenses.

Yes, and they changed, specifically, to which alignment?
This.
__________________


"Either you're playing dumb, or it's not an act". -Judge Judy

No need to drive me crazy. I can walk from here.
Bayz101 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2012, 08:41 PM   #16
Rick5895
Team President
 
Rick5895's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: St.Thomas, ontario , canada
Posts: 2,136
Gender: Male
Member Number: 5148
Thanks: 21
Thanked 33 Times in 22 Posts
Default Re: Could the Casey Hampton Injury Push Steelers Towards A 4-3 Defense?

We really don't have the personell to run the 4-3. We don't really have 4-3 OLB. Woodley and Worilds are DE in that scheme. Same for Carter and probably Harrison as well although James would make the adjustment to. Sam or Will backer. We have been drafting 4-3 ends to play 3-4 OLB. We have a quality group for the DL but would need ro draft OLB and have otherneeds like OL. Down the road maybe but for the immediate future we should sray with the 3-4.
Rick5895 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2012, 02:00 AM   #17
tanda10506
Team President
 
tanda10506's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Smoky Mountains, TN
Posts: 2,104
Gender: Male
Member Number: 17319
Thanks: 814
Thanked 366 Times in 206 Posts
Default Re: Could the Casey Hampton Injury Push Steelers Towards A 4-3 Defense?

We are a 3-4 team and will be, likely forever.
tanda10506 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2012, 03:20 AM   #18
DanRooney
Head Coach
 
DanRooney's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2010
Location: Portsmouth, VA
Posts: 1,786
Gender: Male
Member Number: 16248
Thanks: 2
Thanked 117 Times in 81 Posts
Default Re: Could the Casey Hampton Injury Push Steelers Towards A 4-3 Defense?

I can see Ziggy making the transition to DT and Woodley to 4-3 DE easy, but Keisel and Heyward are protoypical 3-4 DEs. I don't think it would work.

I'd rather have Ziggy move to NT and have Heyward and Keisel on the outside. That's a scary front 3. If we drafted Hightower or Burflict and put them next to Timmons with Harrison and Woodley on the outside, that's easily the best front 7 in football.
__________________
DanRooney is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2012, 03:35 AM   #19
Bayz101
Renegade
Supporter
 
Bayz101's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Mansfield, Ohio
Posts: 7,670
Gender: Male
Member Number: 18856
Thanks: 1,209
Thanked 3,459 Times in 1,557 Posts
My Mood: Sad
Default Re: Could the Casey Hampton Injury Push Steelers Towards A 4-3 Defense?

Quote:
Originally Posted by DanRooney View Post
I can see Ziggy making the transition to DT and Woodley to 4-3 DE easy, but Keisel and Heyward are protoypical 3-4 DEs. I don't think it would work.

I'd rather have Ziggy move to NT and have Heyward and Keisel on the outside. That's a scary front 3. If we drafted Hightower or Burflict and put them next to Timmons with Harrison and Woodley on the outside, that's easily the best front 7 in football.
I think the transition would certainly be possible, but i'm not sure it'd be an improvement. Now, if we drafted Burfict, that may be a different story Dude's a monster!

I think the 4-3 is definitely something we could do, but probably not something we should do. We've been the best defense in football for a while with what we got. Hell, the Texans moved to the 3-4 this year and look we're there at. I think we're fine.
__________________


"Either you're playing dumb, or it's not an act". -Judge Judy

No need to drive me crazy. I can walk from here.
Bayz101 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2012, 03:41 AM   #20
Bayz101
Renegade
Supporter
 
Bayz101's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Mansfield, Ohio
Posts: 7,670
Gender: Male
Member Number: 18856
Thanks: 1,209
Thanked 3,459 Times in 1,557 Posts
My Mood: Sad
Default Re: Could the Casey Hampton Injury Push Steelers Towards A 4-3 Defense?

Well, Harrison's getting old, and V.B. hasn't played a snap in the NFL yet. But if Vontaze is as good in the NFL as he was in college, and Woodley continues to do what he does, it'll definitely be one of the best, and most promising defenses in football.
__________________


"Either you're playing dumb, or it's not an act". -Judge Judy

No need to drive me crazy. I can walk from here.
Bayz101 is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:30 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Shoutbox provided by vBShout v6.2.1 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.0.8 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd. Runs best on HiVelocity Hosting.
Navbar with Avatar by Motorradforum
no new posts