How will posterity remember Peyton?

[dez09231]

Originally Posted by NEPatriots

The Colts were guaranteed a post-season spot just about every season. All they had to do was beat up expansion teams.

Since the realignment in 2002 up until the 10-11 playoffs, since Peyton sat out the next year, the AFC East has sent 13 teams to the playoffs. In that same time period, the AFC South sent 15 teams to the playoffs.

There were 6 spots not represented by the Colts or Patriots in both eras in each division.

The 6 South teams that were in the playoffs were a combined 69-27, or a .718 winning percentage, and the Eastern teams were a combined 50-46, or a .520 winning percentage.


Empirical evidence suggests that not only has the AFC South had better quality teams overall, but that there have also been more quality teams in the South than the East during that time.

So if Peyton was "given" the division over and again, then Brady was served his as breakfast in bed.

[vasteeler]

Originally Posted by NEPatriots

The Colts were guaranteed a post-season spot just about every season. All they had to do was beat up expansion teams.

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says the guy whos division includes the likes of the jets, bills and dophins

[GMU Steeler]

Originally Posted by vasteeler

says the guy whos division includes the likes of the jets, bills and dophins

Yeah no kidding. You can't claim Peyton benefited from a weak division when you've had the likes of those as competition. Anyhow, to answer the original question. I think he'll still be remembered as a great one as he should but he'll also be remembered for his failures also as he should be. I'm not sure about Brady. What kind of amuses me is he's put up his best offensive numbers in years he hasn't won the SB. When the Pats were a more balanced team, that's when he was winning the SBs with them. I'd still take Montana or Elway with a game on the line over Brady. That doesn't mean Brady sucks fwiw but I'd probably take those two over Brady if I could have any QB from any time to start a team.

[BrandonCarr39]

Originally Posted by GMU Steeler

Yeah no kidding. You can't claim Peyton benefited from a weak division when you've had the likes of those as competition. Anyhow, to answer the original question. I think he'll still be remembered as a great one as he should but he'll also be remembered for his failures also as he should be. I'm not sure about Brady. What kind of amuses me is he's put up his best offensive numbers in years he hasn't won the SB. When the Pats were a more balanced team, that's when he was winning the SBs with them. I'd still take Montana or Elway with a game on the line over Brady. That doesn't mean Brady sucks fwiw but I'd probably take those two over Brady if I could have any QB from any time to start a team.

Montana had that very rotten playoff loss against Minnesota in 1987. Niners were the #1 seed playing against an above average team(who happened to play their 2 best games against them and New Orleans in the WC round). He was also benched in that game for Steve Young. He also wasn't any better in those 3 Giants playoff losses.

Elway lost his first 3 SBs by blowouts. BTW, he DID have a running game in the 3rd SB, and the 2nd SB was against an above average "winning ugly" Redskins team.

Ultimately, it's hard to win SBs.