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Old 09-03-2013, 11:42 PM   #1
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Default 9/11 Rethink (# 7 Head-scratcher aka cognitive dissonance disrupted

Saw it go down on that day. Bought it completely as all did I'm sure. Years later I couldn't reconcile the visual data with everything I had been taught in physics class in high school.

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Old 09-04-2013, 12:53 AM   #2
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All the complaints are pretty adequately addressed here:

http://www.nist.gov/el/disasterstudi.../faqs_wtc7.cfm
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Old 09-04-2013, 01:52 AM   #3
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All the complaints are pretty adequately addressed here:

http://www.nist.gov/el/disasterstudi.../faqs_wtc7.cfm
the one question i didn't see asked an answered was ...
what were the odds that the only buildings that completely collapsed were all leased by the same person ? and also how lucky was it that the owner just took out a super duper huge insurance policy on the buildings just months before they were all turned into rubble ?

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the one question i didn't see asked an answered was ...
what were the odds that the only buildings that completely collapsed were all leased by the same person ? and also how lucky was it that the owner just took out a super duper huge insurance policy on the buildings just months before they were all turned into rubble ?

It wasn't luck. Bush just told him to take out those insurance policies ahead of time.
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It wasn't luck. Bush just told him to take out those insurance policies ahead of time.
And then they had a conference call with all the reporters to tell them.
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the one question i didn't see asked an answered was ...
what were the odds that the only buildings that completely collapsed were all leased by the same person ? and also how lucky was it that the owner just took out a super duper huge insurance policy on the buildings just months before they were all turned into rubble ?

I am not sure where you are getting your information.

For one thing Silverstein only owned WTC 7.

The Towers, he was leasing from the Port Authority, and those leases were finalized in July 2001, after he was nearly outbid in a process that started in January 2001. When he finalized the lease he needed to insure the buildings. So nothing in terms of the timing of the insurance purchase fits with a conspiracy. Only a conspiracy that includes him actually planning to lease then insure then "blow up" the buildings fits.

And as to that conspiracy....

http://www.911myths.com/html/windfall.html

I am curious as to how you actually envision this conspiracy playing out? Are you of a mind that there were not 19 mostly-Saudi hijackers involved? No planes, just holograms? Missiles and Hollywood effects?

Or are you simply saying the government knew of the attacks (like it suggested about Pearl Harbor) and allowed them to happen?

Is your conspiracy theory here only related to WTC 7?

There are many different varieties of conspiracy theories regarding 9/11 and they range from extremely nutty to somewhat delusional to possible-but-very-unlikely.

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And then they had a conference call with all the reporters to tell them.
More nonsense.

Everyone knew the building was likely going to collapse because there was not enough water to fight the fires and the fires were buckling the support structures. News people talking about the collapse of the building using varying tenses of the word collapse is not surprising, since they were just repeating (in some cases roughly) what they were being told, which was the building was collapsing (slowly, but inevitably).

The quote from the clip of Silverstein talking to the fire department about "pulling it" refers to the efforts to save the building (pulling back the fire fighters). Like "pulling the plug," either the patient/building dies or lives on its own.

In addition, it makes perfect sense that the disaster managers were weighing different options in terms of how to deal with a fire-ridden, collapsing 45-story building in terms of mitigating the damage. One of those options could have been trying a hasty controlled demolition. So 'rumors' that a controlled demolition was being discussed are hardly evidence of a conspiracy.

As it turned out they didn't choose this action or likely didn't have the means or the time, and the building collapsed on its own.

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This reminds me of the documentary "Loose Change".
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anybody still talking about 9/11 conspiracies should be whipped, shot, hung, cut into pieces then fed to the hogs


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to the OP- the most basic physics proves that when exposed to thousands of degrees of heat, steel will lose its structural integrity, especially steel weighted down with concrete.

i lit a candle on fire one time, and lo and behold, it melted to the ground.

i saw a boy scout build a campfire with the strongest tee-pee wooden structure ever. lo and behold, it eventually fel to the ground as well.
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