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Old 10-28-2013, 07:16 AM   #1
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Default NFL Trade Deadline: Bringing Larry Fitzgerald back to Pittsburgh

Normally, I wouldn't post an article so heavily based on speculation, but this article was, in my opinion, very well thought out. Larry is one of the best all-around players on and off the field in recent memory, and is a fan favorite in the area given his college years. Although some of the reasoning may not be enough to get the deal done, it is enough to make the thought sound like a little more than simple speculation.

I know, "It'll never happen." But, hell, this should make for some pretty interesting discussion regardless. We need receiver help and we need it bad. Given some deals that could be made here, I can't say I wouldn't sacrifice a mid- or high-round draft pick if we could get Fitzgerald in the Black and Gold.

Think of it as an apology from Arizona for Levi Brown.

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What kind of price would wide receiver Larry Fitzgerald put on returning to the place he spent his college years?

Likely too much.

At the same time, though, Fitzgerald - whom the Cardinals are reportedly looking to trade this offseason unless they make a deal by the trade deadline, which isn't expected - is going to find there won't be many places likely to pick up the rest of his current contract in exchange for anything.

High-priced NFL players really have two choices as they head into the twilight of their respective careers. They can either play for a huge salary, or they can take less to play for a winner. Clearly that's a relative set of options - what's "huge" in terms of salary to a player and what are the requirements of consideration of a winning team?

In Fitzgerald's case, the teams in the league with a huge amount of cap room aren't necessarily good teams. The ones with the largest amount of space combined with the most amount of players signed for next year are Cleveland and Buffalo - each with under $101 million in salary and at least 41 players currently under contract.

Considering Fitzgerald would easily be able to threaten not to report to whatever team he'd be traded to, the Cardinals would be wise to seek his blessing before making a deal. If he's going to get moved from the only team he's known in his pro career, why would he want to join the ranks of two of the worst AFC teams over the last five years?

The Steelers, on the other hand...

Cap space would be the first, second and third reasons why this deal wouldn't work, but it's all set to how much the Steelers could get Arizona to pay of his remaining deal, or to what kind of contract Fitzgerald would be willing to accept to play for a team with a budding offense, high level quarterback and great multi-faceted second receiver.

Arizona, too, would likely be interested in soon-to-be free agent Emmanuel Sanders - probably a worthy replacement chip to add to the stack held by his former offensive coordinator, Bruce Arians, in the desert. Sure, they could get him in free agency, but they could get him now, along with a high pick (second round), provided Fitzgerald is open to negotiating his contract.

Clearly, Steelers offensive coordinator Todd Haley has had a slight bit of success with Fitzgerald in the past. Steelers fans no doubt remember his 64-yard touchdown against the Steelers in Super Bowl XLIII - one that gave him the all-time single playoff record of 546 receiving yards. At 30 years of age, too, there's still plenty of tread on the tires.

Again, though...the cap. The Steelers are currently projected at being $134,353,582 in cap salary for the 2014 season. Those are what's projected now, which includes players who are under contract. Injured offensive tackle Levi Brown, worth $6,25 million, is not likely to be on the Steelers in 2014 - or at least not at that salary.

Cornerback Ike Taylor has a cap number of $11.9 million after his recent restructure. That's pretty much a sure sign the team will give him some kind of extension in the offseason to thin that cap number out a bit. Ditto for Troy Polamalu, who has a cap number of $10.88 million, but $2.6 million in dead money if released. Although not ideal, if Polamalu wishes to get a new contract for perhaps less money, he can accept one with new money but a lower overall amount than he would receive in 2014 under his current deal. If he doesn't wish to do that, he'd be released.

These are just a few spitball ideas, and ones that may be made anyway, regardless of a pipe dream of bringing Fitzgerald back to Pittsburgh, but the idea isn't preposterous either.

Throw in a 2014 draft pick (keeping in mind the third round pick they dealt to Cleveland for the pick that landed them Shamarko Thomas is gone, but a third or fourth round comp pick that can't be traded is coming for the loss of Mike Wallace to free agency), and perhaps a deal for Fitzgerald could be struck.

The Steelers are struggling quite a bit in the red zone, and have been since roughly the middle of last season. Fitzgerald's presence alone could help with that - line him up opposite Heath Miller in any kind of package, the Steelers would like their chances of scoring from inside the five.

Maybe it's nothing more than a fun conversation, but in all seriousness, if the Steelers defeat the Raiders in Oakland today, sitting at 3-4, a move like that wouldn't be unrealistic.
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Default Re: NFL Trade Deadline: Bringing Larry Fitzgerald back to Pittsburgh

As much as I would love to have Larry Fitzgerald on the Steelers, at this point in time I'd much rather draft Mike Evans. He's younger, cheaper, wouldn't push us deeper into salary cap Hell. I know we need to draft offensive linemen, but if the Steelers decide that wide receiver is their most pressing issue next season, then I'd rather get Evans in the draft. This season is pretty much a lost cause.
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Default Re: NFL Trade Deadline: Bringing Larry Fitzgerald back to Pittsburgh

We don't need any more receivers.

What we need is an O-line that can protect and block.

If we don't fix THAT problem it wouldn't make any difference if Swann and Stallworth were in their prime and available for free.
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Default Re: NFL Trade Deadline: Bringing Larry Fitzgerald back to Pittsburgh

Larry Fitzgerald is Exhibit A for the dangers of paying a mega-contract to a WR and ending up in cap hell because of it
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Default Re: NFL Trade Deadline: Bringing Larry Fitzgerald back to Pittsburgh

I wanted Fitz before the season started. This team isnt making the playoffs so it wouldnt be fair to Larry and the Steelers would put themselves in a bad spot financially.
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Larry Fitzgerald was and is the face of that franchise. The Cardinals had to sign him and he was worth every penny.

The Cardinals are young and have a better foundation than they have had for years. Like any veteran player Fitz takes up a large sum of their cap. The cards have a group of young receivers and do not rely on Fitz like they did in the past.

The time is now, they will get a handsome return for him and Ariens might be the most successful coach that franchise has had in a long time.
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lol this is as likely as making the playoffs this year
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As much as I would love to have Larry Fitzgerald on the Steelers, at this point in time I'd much rather draft Mike Evans. He's younger, cheaper, wouldn't push us deeper into salary cap Hell. I know we need to draft offensive linemen, but if the Steelers decide that wide receiver is their most pressing issue next season, then I'd rather get Evans in the draft. This season is pretty much a lost cause.
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Larry Fitzgerald was and is the face of that franchise. The Cardinals had to sign him and he was worth every penny.

The Cardinals are young and have a better foundation than they have had for years. Like any veteran player Fitz takes up a large sum of their cap. The cards have a group of young receivers and do not rely on Fitz like they did in the past.

The time is now, they will get a handsome return for him and Ariens might be the most successful coach that franchise has had in a long time.
If he was "worth every penny" since he re-signed in 2011 you might have expected a playoff appearance and the HC not getting fired

He is a great receiver but without someone to throw him the ball the Cardinals were burning $$$ by agreeing to that contract - because they cannot sell tickets they were stuck doing it but throwing that much at a WR is not going to win Lombardis - anytime your WR is the face of the franchise that franchise is in trouble (even Jerry Rice was not the face of the 49ers with Montana and Young at QB)
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Last time Haley and Fitz were together they got to a Super Bowl, and if not for the most spectacular catch in NFL SB history, they would of won! Ben isn't getting any younger so if this is gonna happen, it gotta happen NOW! Fitz, AB, and a healthy Heath, along with Moye, Wheaton, would be very, very, VERY nice! I hope they can pull this off. We would make some serious noise, if not this year, next year for sure. As things are going now, I don't see a light at the end of the tunnel for our vets at least ( Troy, Ben, Ike) A move like this would brighten things up around here. Losing Sanders, and a mid round pick is nothing to get Fitz as long as the numbers work out without completely killing the cap! Pats got Brady, Randy Moss. The Giants got Eli, Plex. Let's get Ben, The Fitz!!!
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