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Old 10-29-2013, 08:12 PM   #1
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Default Completely Half-Assed Analysis of the Steelers vs. Patriots

I saw a stat on Bleacher Report (yeah, I know) comparing BB and Marcia Brady. I know that Marcia has had a tough go of things, but didn't realize how similar his stats are to Ben's.

Ben 1930 yds, 8 TDs, 7 ints and an 87.2 passer rating
Marcia 1824, 9 TDs, 6 ints and a 74.9 passer rating

So, it got me thinking, with Pitt being the 8th ranked passing team in the league, and the Pats as the 23rd, what gives?....why are the Pats 6-2 and the Steelers 2-5?

Yes, there's a clear difference in the rushing game. The Pats are 12th overall with 120.6 ypg and a 4.2 ypc average. Pitt is a woeful 30th with 66.4 ypg and a 3.0 ypc average.

Overall offensive numbers? 18th for NE and 23rd for Pitt.

Now, look at the defensive numbers. Many would suggest that the Steelers defense has carried them this year.

Pitt has the 2nd ranked pass defense, the Pats are 5th. Pitt is the 27th worst run defense at 121.9 ypg. NE is 31st at 131.8. Again, like the offensive numbers, they look very similar on paper. So, why the difference in the record?

I contend that the major reason why this team is losing is not as much on the offense as it is on the defense. Pitt has, historically, won games without scoring tons of points. It was said that if the Steelers scored 17 points they were going to win.

The defense no longer pressures the QB, and therefore, no longer gets sacks & turnovers. This, to me, is the single biggest reason for the failure of last season and the first 7 games of 2013.

Pitt has 10 sacks, 4 ints, and 1 fumble recovery.
NE has 24 sacks, 10 ints, and 6 fumble recoveries.

So, why is New England 6-2 and Pitt 2-5? The Steelers defense is not getting it done. Sure, a better offensive game plan would do wonders. However, until LeBeau/Tomlin/Colbert/theRooneys fix this team's lack of QB pressure, they will continue to fall short on the scoreboard.

Okay. Go ahead and tear my ass up and tell me why I'm wrong. I'm married. I'm used to it.
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Default Re: Completely Half-Assed Analysis of the Steelers vs. Patriots

I won't say you're wrong. When the Patriots are down by 17 points in the second half they still expect to win. When the Steelers are down by 17 points they go "oh no here we go again."

can't discount experience and continuity either. Brady has played the quarterback position almost 20 years longer than Ben. Bella check has been coaching in the NFL probably 30 years longer than Tomlin.
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I won't say you're wrong. When the Patriots are down by 17 points in the second half they still expect to win. When the Steelers are down by 17 points they go "oh no here we go again."

can't discount experience and continuity either. Brady has played the quarterback position almost 20 years longer than Ben. Bella check has been coaching in the NFL probably 30 years longer than Tomlin.
You're right. Continuity is a major issue facing the team right now. So many injuries and young guys that the downturn was bound to happen.

I just think that the team needs to focus early on the front 7 on defense in the next draft. Oh, and shit-can Haley.
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I saw a stat on Bleacher Report (yeah, I know) comparing BB and Marcia Brady. I know that Marcia has had a tough go of things, but didn't realize how similar his stats are to Ben's.

Ben 1930 yds, 8 TDs, 7 ints and an 87.2 passer rating
Marcia 1824, 9 TDs, 6 ints and a 74.9 passer rating

So, it got me thinking, with Pitt being the 8th ranked passing team in the league, and the Pats as the 23rd, what gives?....why are the Pats 6-2 and the Steelers 2-5?

Yes, there's a clear difference in the rushing game. The Pats are 12th overall with 120.6 ypg and a 4.2 ypc average. Pitt is a woeful 30th with 66.4 ypg and a 3.0 ypc average.

Overall offensive numbers? 18th for NE and 23rd for Pitt.

Now, look at the defensive numbers. Many would suggest that the Steelers defense has carried them this year.

Pitt has the 2nd ranked pass defense, the Pats are 5th. Pitt is the 27th worst run defense at 121.9 ypg. NE is 31st at 131.8. Again, like the offensive numbers, they look very similar on paper. So, why the difference in the record?

I contend that the major reason why this team is losing is not as much on the offense as it is on the defense. Pitt has, historically, won games without scoring tons of points. It was said that if the Steelers scored 17 points they were going to win.

The defense no longer pressures the QB, and therefore, no longer gets sacks & turnovers. This, to me, is the single biggest reason for the failure of last season and the first 7 games of 2013.

Pitt has 10 sacks, 4 ints, and 1 fumble recovery.
NE has 24 sacks, 10 ints, and 6 fumble recoveries.

So, why is New England 6-2 and Pitt 2-5? The Steelers defense is not getting it done. Sure, a better offensive game plan would do wonders. However, until LeBeau/Tomlin/Colbert/theRooneys fix this team's lack of QB pressure, they will continue to fall short on the scoreboard.

Okay. Go ahead and tear my ass up and tell me why I'm wrong. I'm married. I'm used to it.
You are correct

The defense has carried the team since Tomlin arrived - the only year the Steelers missed the playoffs from 2007-2011 was in 2009 when the defense did not finish either first or second in points and yards allowed.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/pit/

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I saw a stat on Bleacher Report (yeah, I know) comparing BB and Marcia Brady. I know that Marcia has had a tough go of things, but didn't realize how similar his stats are to Ben's.

Ben 1930 yds, 8 TDs, 7 ints and an 87.2 passer rating
Marcia 1824, 9 TDs, 6 ints and a 74.9 passer rating

So, it got me thinking, with Pitt being the 8th ranked passing team in the league, and the Pats as the 23rd, what gives?....why are the Pats 6-2 and the Steelers 2-5?

Yes, there's a clear difference in the rushing game. The Pats are 12th overall with 120.6 ypg and a 4.2 ypc average. Pitt is a woeful 30th with 66.4 ypg and a 3.0 ypc average.

Overall offensive numbers? 18th for NE and 23rd for Pitt.

Now, look at the defensive numbers. Many would suggest that the Steelers defense has carried them this year.

Pitt has the 2nd ranked pass defense, the Pats are 5th. Pitt is the 27th worst run defense at 121.9 ypg. NE is 31st at 131.8. Again, like the offensive numbers, they look very similar on paper. So, why the difference in the record?

I contend that the major reason why this team is losing is not as much on the offense as it is on the defense. Pitt has, historically, won games without scoring tons of points. It was said that if the Steelers scored 17 points they were going to win.

The defense no longer pressures the QB, and therefore, no longer gets sacks & turnovers. This, to me, is the single biggest reason for the failure of last season and the first 7 games of 2013.

Pitt has 10 sacks, 4 ints, and 1 fumble recovery.
NE has 24 sacks, 10 ints, and 6 fumble recoveries.

So, why is New England 6-2 and Pitt 2-5? The Steelers defense is not getting it done. Sure, a better offensive game plan would do wonders. However, until LeBeau/Tomlin/Colbert/theRooneys fix this team's lack of QB pressure, they will continue to fall short on the scoreboard.

Okay. Go ahead and tear my ass up and tell me why I'm wrong. I'm married. I'm used to it.
I'm just happy someone posted the stats you listed here. I've been trying to explain to fans that keep banging on Ben and saying he's not on Brady's level. When Brady loses weapons, and his O-line doesn't dominate, he looks very average.

There are always reasons for drops in performance, but sometimes fans don't want to see it.
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Difference between the Pats and Steelers. Pats and brady have sucked and are 5-2. Steelers and Big Ben have sucked and are 2-5.
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This is what it all boils down to right here.

Pitt has 10 sacks, 4 ints, and 1 fumble recovery.
NE has 24 sacks, 10 ints, and 6 fumble recoveries.
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The Steelers offense has the worst average starting field position in the NFL. That certainly doesn't help.
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