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Old 01-24-2014, 06:59 PM   #761
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stanley jean baptiste is also opening eyes at the senior bowl

6-3 210lb corner

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CB Stanley Jean-Baptiste, Nebraska

The buzz around practices was that NFL teams are now looking for the big, long, aggressive cornerback to fit into press coverage schemes. In short, teams want the next Richard Sherman.

Stanley Jean-Baptiste isn't quite Richard Sherman, but coaches and scouts will see a lot of similarities and a clay they can work with in his Nebraska game film and the abilities shown in practice. Jean-Baptiste has the frame (6'2 3/8", 215 lbs) and the fluid hips and feet to play in press coverage at the next level.

Some may knock his hip technique or how high he plays, but when you're over 6'2", you won't be as flexible as a smaller cornerback. That's OK, because a smaller cornerback can't press and jam like he can.

Don't be surprised to hear Jean-Baptiste's name called at the end of Day 1 or very early on Day 2.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...nior-bowl-week
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Old 01-24-2014, 07:22 PM   #762
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CB Stanley Jean-Baptiste, Nebraska

The buzz around practices was that NFL teams are now looking for the big, long, aggressive cornerback to fit into press coverage schemes. In short, teams want the next Richard Sherman.

Stanley Jean-Baptiste isn't quite Richard Sherman, but coaches and scouts will see a lot of similarities and a clay they can work with in his Nebraska game film and the abilities shown in practice. Jean-Baptiste has the frame (6'2 3/8", 215 lbs) and the fluid hips and feet to play in press coverage at the next level.

Some may knock his hip technique or how high he plays, but when you're over 6'2", you won't be as flexible as a smaller cornerback. That's OK, because a smaller cornerback can't press and jam like he can.

Don't be surprised to hear Jean-Baptiste's name called at the end of Day 1 or very early on Day 2.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...nior-bowl-week
Richard Sherman wasn't even supposed to be Richard Sherman. Once again, anyone in the league can succeed if they work hard and use their opportunities when they arise.
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No, a 6'3 corner never works. Too top heavy. No way a 6'3 guy changes direction fast enough to keep up with a receiver. Not unless he's Mel Blount, and I don't buy that this guy is, and the rules have been changed to prevent the Mel Blount kind of corner from succeeding.
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No, a 6'3 corner never works. Too top heavy. No way a 6'3 guy changes direction fast enough to keep up with a receiver. Not unless he's Mel Blount, and I don't buy that this guy is, and the rules have been changed to prevent the Mel Blount kind of corner from succeeding.
Richard Sherman...
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Old 01-24-2014, 08:45 PM   #765
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Pshh, Richard Sherman. Not like he's very good. If he was so good he would lead the league in picks and his team would be in the super bowl.
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Old 01-24-2014, 09:30 PM   #766
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No, a 6'3 corner never works. Too top heavy. No way a 6'3 guy changes direction fast enough to keep up with a receiver. Not unless he's Mel Blount, and I don't buy that this guy is, and the rules have been changed to prevent the Mel Blount kind of corner from succeeding.
Building off of what @teegre said, Tillman and Peterson are both 6'2. That's arguably three of the top five Corners in the league at 6'2 or bigger. A lot of guys just miss that 6'2 cut too, like Champ Bailey and Antonio Cromartie at 6'1.
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Old 01-24-2014, 09:39 PM   #767
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Regardless, Joyner > SJ-B.
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Old 01-25-2014, 01:45 AM   #768
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If Dennard runs a 4.4 40 he'll be the #1 corner Imo but Gilbert has return skills and great ball skills(DD does to) which could still keep him above Dennard.

But I still believe Dennard is the better cover corner, his play at MSU reminded me of Darrelle Revis when he was at PITT meaning he was left on an "island" or in Dennard case the "No Fly Zone" while letting the the rest of the defense not worry about his side of the field.

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15. Pittsburgh Steelers (8-8): Darqueze Dennard, CB, Michigan State.

Imagine Troy Polamalu as a cornerback. That’s not an across-the-board comparison, but Dennard brings a lot of those Polamalu traits to the field. Namely, he plays with an edge, a trait highlighted in how aggressively he dives down to pitch in against the run. Pittsburgh’s corners were putrid at times in 2013, so the value of finding Dennard all the way down at 15 would be a godsend.

http://nfl.si.com/2014/01/08/2014-nf...nny-manziel-2/
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If Dennard runs a 4.4 40 he'll be the #1 corner Imo but Gilbert has return skills and great ball skills(DD does to) which could still keep him above Dennard.

But I still believe Dennard is the better cover corner, his play at MSU reminded me of Darrelle Revis when he was at PITT meaning he was left on an "island" or in Dennard case the "No Fly Zone" while letting the the rest of the defense not worry about his side of the field.

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15. Pittsburgh Steelers (8-8): Darqueze Dennard, CB, Michigan State.

Imagine Troy Polamalu as a cornerback. That’s not an across-the-board comparison, but Dennard brings a lot of those Polamalu traits to the field. Namely, he plays with an edge, a trait highlighted in how aggressively he dives down to pitch in against the run. Pittsburgh’s corners were putrid at times in 2013, so the value of finding Dennard all the way down at 15 would be a godsend.

http://nfl.si.com/2014/01/08/2014-nf...nny-manziel-2/
I love Dennard. He has a great all around game and toughness.

Gilbert has the prototypical size that the Steelers look for in a corner. It's always hard to know how they have them rated on their board, but historically, Gilbert's size fits what they do. If they had their choice, history says they take Gilbert.

I would love to have either of these guys.
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If Dennard runs a 4.4 40 he'll be the #1 corner Imo but Gilbert has return skills and great ball skills(DD does to) which could still keep him above Dennard.

But I still believe Dennard is the better cover corner, his play at MSU reminded me of Darrelle Revis when he was at PITT meaning he was left on an "island" or in Dennard case the "No Fly Zone" while letting the the rest of the defense not worry about his side of the field.

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15. Pittsburgh Steelers (8-8): Darqueze Dennard, CB, Michigan State.

Imagine Troy Polamalu as a cornerback. That’s not an across-the-board comparison, but Dennard brings a lot of those Polamalu traits to the field. Namely, he plays with an edge, a trait highlighted in how aggressively he dives down to pitch in against the run. Pittsburgh’s corners were putrid at times in 2013, so the value of finding Dennard all the way down at 15 would be a godsend.

http://nfl.si.com/2014/01/08/2014-nf...nny-manziel-2/
speed is the biggest worry about dennard. i read they worry about if he gets beat on a route, does he have the speed to recover? if either gilbert or dennard are picked at 15....sweet!!!
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