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Old 11-04-2013, 05:30 PM   #11
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Ex-NFL QB Gannon recalls scaled shakedown of rookies
And that's just as wrong. Rookie hazing is one thing, but strong-arm extortion is an entirely different matter and the alleged Incognito situation sounds to be falling into the latter category.
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Actually the "money thing" is extremely important. It's called extortion and happens to be a felony. Incognito is possibly in some seriously deep shit.
do you have a source for that?
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Extortion, also known as blackmail, describes a threat made in order to take another person's money or property, or to compel another person to act or not act. The threat must be sufficient to overcome the victim's free will. Extortion and robbery are distinct crimes because robbery generally requires an immediate threat of physical harm at the time when the perpetrator takes the property, while extortion simply requires a threat at any time.

A Florida state prosecutor must establish several elements to prove an extortion case:

Threat: The prosecutor must prove that the defendant made a verbal or written threat. The threat might imply physical harm death, or even psychological harm to the recipient of the threat, to another person, or to property, if the victim does not comply. Alternatively, the defendant might threaten to reveal a secret, accuse the victim of a crime, or otherwise harm the threatened person's reputation. Under Florida law, the defendant may threaten to do either an unlawful or lawful act. Extortion can include the threat of a legal act, as long as the prosecutor can show that the defendant acted maliciously.

Intent: The prosecutor must show that the defendant had an intent to gain financially, receive property, or otherwise compel the victim to do any act against the victim's will. However, Florida law does not require an intent to actually carry out the threat or an ability to perform the threatened act.

Penalties and Sentences

Extortion is a second degree felony in Florida. A conviction can result in term of imprisonment for up to fifteen years, a fine in an amount up to $10,000, or both. However, the state may be able to request an increased punishment if the defendant has a criminal record with prior felonies or qualifies as a habitual felony offender.

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Sources told ESPN that one of the significant allegations being reviewed is that Incognito got Martin to contribute $15,000 to help finance a trip to Las Vegas by a group of Dolphins last summer, even though Martin preferred not to travel with the group.

Rather than go, Martin simply gave Incognito the $15,000, sources told ESPN, fearing the consequences if he did not hand over the money.

One source said there are other instances of intimidation, captured in text messages and at least one demeaning voice mail. Martin's recent reported text communications with Incognito that indicated he did not hold the guard responsible for his absence also were sent in the same spirit of fearing retribution, sources told ESPN.


http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/99...tion-teammates
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Incognito does have those who will vouch for his character

“I love Richie, man,” receiver Mike Wallace said. “I personally think he’s a great guy.”

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/11/0...nito-amid.html
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Is time for Ritchie to go INCOGNITO
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It's been all over the news that it's reported that Incognito was possibly the ringleader of a group of Dolphins players that squeezed money out of rookie players to finance veteran trips to Vegas that the rookies did not attend. Martin himself was allegedly bullied into coughing up $15,000 personally. That's going way beyond just a little rookie hazing and leaving a dinner tab.


EDIT: I see Atlanta Dan has already provided one of the many articles touching on this.
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Actually the "money thing" is extremely important. It's called extortion and happens to be a felony. Incognito is possibly in some seriously deep shit.
Yes Incognito is going to be in trouble if Martin, or his parents, doesn't let it go.

Martin's father and mother are both lawyers who attended Harvard University.
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Yes Incognito is going to be in trouble if Martin, or his parents, doesn't let it go.

Martin's father and mother are both lawyers who attended Harvard University.
Not to mention some local DA may want to get some publicity

Incognito is not a sympathetic guy
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