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Old 01-10-2014, 01:15 PM   #91
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Wow, they missed Larry Foote a lot more than you would have thought.



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actually...the steelers allowed 1849 yds rushing....which was 21st in the league!
they averaged 115.6 yds per game...which was 21st in the league!
the steelers averaged 90.6 yds per game in 2012-2013!

stats do not lie sir!!!!
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Old 01-10-2014, 01:38 PM   #92
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Mosley was arguably the best MLB/ILB in the country this season. In fact, you could probably make a case for him being a top 3 defensive player in the country... period. I don't know who had more of an impact with their play than Mosley did on a game to game basis for the Crimson Tide defense or really any other defense for any team.

But I digress, this isn't about Mosley. Steve McLendon isn't great, but he's solid. Our underlying issues run deeper than McLendon, like Troy at ILB or Vince Williams being forced into a starting role. You could also easily argue that Ziggy Hood is more of an issue on the line than McLendon is with his inability to shed blocks and get into the backfield to stop the run.
The job of a 5-technique is NOT to "get into the backfield to stop the run". They need to maintain the gap they are responsible for, engage the blocker and plug the gap so that the ILB can flow to make the tackle.

As others have said, its important to have a NT that consistently commands a double team block in the 3-4. If you don't, then one lineman is free to scrape off the double team and block an ILB.

Steelers do not have that NT that commands a double team. Its why they are weak on the interior defense and the rushing yards allowed showed that this season.
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Wow, they missed Larry Foote a lot more than you would have thought.

I bet the yardage would have been worse if Foote WAS playing. Foote has digressed to waiting 4 yards off the line of scrimmage and making the tackle downfield. The promising thing I saw from Vince Williams was he was attacking the ballcarrier and trying to scrape thru traffic to make the tackle.

I enjoyed wating Foote play in college at Michigan, I enjoyed his early years with the Steelers, but honestly hope he steps aside and retires, as he has only been mediocre at best the past few seasons.
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Old 01-10-2014, 01:43 PM   #94
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The job of a 5-technique is NOT to "get into the backfield to stop the run". They need to maintain the gap they are responsible for, engage the blocker and plug the gap so that the ILB can flow to make the tackle.

As others have said, its important to have a NT that consistently commands a double team block in the 3-4. If you don't, then one lineman is free to scrape off the double team and block an ILB.

Steelers do not have that NT that commands a double team. Its why they are weak on the interior defense and the rushing yards allowed showed that this season.
In our scheme, I'll give ya that. That's part of my issue with our scheme right now (see Houston's and San Fran's 3-4) but I digress.

That's the point I'm making though - the interior runs when McLendon was playing were held to just over 2 YPC. McLendon may not be a prototypical NT, but he's getting the job done.
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Wow, they missed Larry Foote a lot more than you would have thought.

It's Donnie Edwards.

I used to watch Donnie a lot. He was a tackling machine. And, RBs almost never got past hm.

The problem was that at a certain point, those tackles went from "behind the LOS" to "at the LOS"... and eventually "three yards past the LOS."

Foote rarely let RBs get past him, but he was not "stopping" the run. Three yards is still a good gain.
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There was A LOT that changed from 2000 to 2001.

Aaron Smith took the next step in his development as a raw low rounder. 2000 was when he first started seeing significant playing time and he showed himself to be solid. As a full time starter he blossomed in 2001 into one of the best 3-4 DEs in the league.

Kirk had REALLY went off a cliff in 2000, Bell was a massive upgrade over him at ILB.

Hampton helped get NG to where it was with Steed but both Smith and Bell were more impactful to the defense.

Gildon had his career year, Porter was a tough, all told the team had 55 sacks.

At the same time, the offense was MUCH better in 2001 than 2000. Mularky was a big upgrade over Gilbride, who was horrible with Stewart.

Stewart had been completely abysmal in 2000. Jerome looked average averaging 3.8 yards a carry, they didn't have a receiver have over 700 total yards.

In 2001 the run game MASHED teams with Jerome, Fu and Zeroaue.

Jerome averaged one of his best years at 4.8 yards a carry in 2001 after the team averaged .4.8 yards a carry.

They had drafted Plax the year before and he played like stink and got hurt and did not have even 300 yards receiving. Hines took his big step up and both he and plax had 1,000 yards.

The offense was a TOP monster, improved it scoring from 17th to 7th giving teams less time to have to score more points - ie, pass, setting up the pass rush.

It wasn't the legend of Hampton and nothing else.
Good points.

The offense is currently 16th-ish. If this offense makes that same type of jump (up to 6th), then it'd be awesome for everyone involved.

Likewise, the 2000 team and this current team are oddly similar.

Aaron developed. So has Heyward.

Bettis resurged. Bell is just developing.

von Oelhoffen moved to DE. McClendon (should) move to DE.

Casey was drafted. Nix will be drafted.
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Good points.

The offense is currently 16th-ish. If this offense makes that same type of jump (up to 6th), then it'd be awesome for everyone involved.

Likewise, the 2000 team and this current team are oddly similar.

Aaron developed. So has Heyward.

Bettis resurged. Bell is just developing.

von Oelhoffen moved to DE. McClendon (should) move to DE.

Casey was drafted. Nix will be drafted.
Interesting
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Casey was drafted. Nix will be drafted.
I would be shocked if the Steelers drafted him. I'm not saying I'd be upset, but shocked.
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Right, the issue wasn't them getting gashed up the middle.



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In our scheme, I'll give ya that. That's part of my issue with our scheme right now (see Houston's and San Fran's 3-4) but I digress.

That's the point I'm making though - the interior runs when McLendon was playing were held to just over 2 YPC. McLendon may not be a prototypical NT, but he's getting the job done.
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Actually the same thought came to me when I was doing my homework on the post, the similarities between the team then and now, and the potential for the team to really rebound next year.

I just disagree on NG.

Again, especially in light of the league changing so much offensively. Teams just don't have the inclination to try to run the ball up the gut and beat you like that any more.

It is a scoring league that the powers to be have systemically moved to take the "physical" element out of the game.

In 2000 and 2001 the league scoring average was 20.7 and 20.2.

It was 23.4 this year.

They can get a knock around vet to "take up two blockers" in the run game for 1/3 of the snaps and use the first rounder on a full time player.



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Good points.

The offense is currently 16th-ish. If this offense makes that same type of jump (up to 6th), then it'd be awesome for everyone involved.

Likewise, the 2000 team and this current team are oddly similar.

Aaron developed. So has Heyward.

Bettis resurged. Bell is just developing.

von Oelhoffen moved to DE. McClendon (should) move to DE.

Casey was drafted. Nix will be drafted.
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