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Old 12-03-2013, 06:01 PM   #11
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actually they are both about live and let live. But to secularists and loons seem to always try and ruin xmas for others. I could care less if someone is gay, doesn't have impact on me. It seems some want their cake and eat it too though.
I have no beef with Christmas at all. I celebrate it with my family like a lot of people though, admittedly, I'm not really a religious person. How would you feel about government property being used to promote other religions such as Islam or the beliefs of the Westboro Baptist Church since you seem to believe in "live and let live"?
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I have no beef with Christmas at all. I celebrate it with my family like a lot of people though, admittedly, I'm not really a religious person. How would you feel about government property being used to promote other religions such as Islam or the beliefs of the Westboro Baptist Church since you seem to believe in "live and let live"?
I don't have problem with with other religions expressing their beliefs either. I am not religious either. My wife and daughter are catholic and I shake my head at a lot that goes on with the Catholic Church and some of their rituals. But I like celebrating xmas, I actually like xmas tree lighting ceremonies and and going to xmas parties and things that go along with it. It seems the one time of year people are actually giving, friendly and care about one another. It pisses me off when I see people trying to ruin it for others because they don' t believe. If they don't like it stay away. Its like someone going to San Francisco and whining about gays. If it bothered me I wouldn't go to the city. Diversity is a good thing, as long as its not forced down peoples throats. Back to original question, I don't think any religion belongs in court houses , federal buildings etc. But there is nothing wrong with all religions expressing their beliefs in public areas. It is a slippery slope though because religion is a passionate topic. Nothing wrong with a xmas tree or a menorah in a police station or firehouse IMO though.
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I don't have problem with with other religions expressing their beliefs either. I am not religious either. My wife and daughter are catholic and I shake my head at a lot that goes on with the Catholic Church and some of their rituals. But I like celebrating xmas, I actually like xmas tree lighting ceremonies and and going to xmas parties and things that go along with it. It seems the one time of year people are actually giving, friendly and care about one another. It pisses me off when I see people trying to ruin it for others because they don' t believe. If they don't like it stay away. Its like someone going to San Francisco and whining about gays. If it bothered me I wouldn't go to the city. Diversity is a good thing, as long as its not forced down peoples throats. Back to original question, I don't think any religion belongs in court houses , federal buildings etc. But there is nothing wrong with all religions expressing their beliefs in public areas. It is a slippery slope though because religion is a passionate topic. Nothing wrong with a xmas tree or a menorah in a police station or firehouse IMO though.
I don't have a problem with different religions expressing their beliefs in public as long as it's not being forced down our throats. I enjoy Christmas as well, but don't adhere to the religious aspect of it. Maybe that makes me hypocritical or odd, but I just see it as a fun time of year where you can get together with friends and family and enjoy each other and exchange gifts if you like.

I don't see things like trying to take Christmas out of government areas as such a heinous attack on Christmas as much as following the separation of church and state and respecting others of different views. I also believe that for ANY religion. Neutral public places or churches are another thing altogether and I could care less about that.

Seems we have a little common ground here.
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I don't have a problem with different religions expressing their beliefs in public as long as it's not being forced down our throats. I enjoy Christmas as well, but don't adhere to the religious aspect of it. Maybe that makes me hypocritical or odd, but I just see it as a fun time of year where you can get together with friends and family and enjoy each other and exchange gifts if you like.

I don't see things like trying to take Christmas out of government areas as such a heinous attack on Christmas as much as following the separation of church and state and respecting others of different views. I also believe that for ANY religion. Neutral public places or churches are another thing altogether and I could care less about that.

Seems we have a little common ground here.
It sounds like the way we celebrate xmas is very similar, not all that like to say Merry xmas instead of happy holidays, or like public xmas displays are religious nuts for lack of better term.
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I enjoy Christmas and the holiday cheer, but a lot of what Christmas represents is Pagan, not Christianity (odd, right?). I'm a christian and Christmas is simply a time for me to spend time with my family.
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